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The action continues right where 𝘍𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 left off, and the momentum picks up from there. Instead of starting anew with her found family, Fable is taken by a thug and used as a pawn in his scheming. She does what needs to be done so she can leave and reunite with the crew of the 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘰𝘭𝘥, but reality isn’t always easy or straightforward.
As the story unfolds, it becomes apparent her captor isn’t the only one with hidden plans, and the multiple twists and revelations force Fable to face some truths about not only herself, but those closest to her as well—one of them being West (whom I adore).
I said it before, but it bears repeating: I love this ensemble of characters. Fable is a protagonist you want to root for. She’s incredibly resilient, skilled, independent, and crafty; she’ll do whatever it takes to ensure she and those she loves come out the other side. There’s more to every single character than meets the eye, and peeling back those layers and discovering their motivations was so fun.
As with the first book, the author’s storytelling ability transported me to the Narrows. I live in the desert, but I swear I could smell salty sea air and feel the rocking of a ship beneath my feet. This, combined with the diverse and intriguing cast, made this one a winner.
This part of the duology was especially interesting because so much is uncovered about Fable’s blood family. I’ll be the first in line to do some shameless begging for a prequel on her parents.
ʀᴇᴀᴅ ᴛʜɪꜱ if you love immersive stories with adventure, strong characters, romance, and solid familial—blood and found—bonds.
Let it be known that I DO NOT cry in books…and I cried while reading NAMESAKE. It was the perfect end to the duology and officially one of my favourite book series ever.
Adrienne Young’s writing has a way of completely immersing you into worlds and leaving you on the edge of your seat. Her writing style is not only engaging and easy-to-read, but her character and world-building is also brilliant.
I didn’t want to put NAMESAKE down until I was finished, and then it was bittersweet that it was over. The way Adrienne so beautifully wrapped together this story leaves you with a *chefs kiss* meme.
Do yourself a favour and just buy Adrienne’s entire backlist now so you have more of her beautiful words once you finish this duology.
'Namesake,' book two of the Fable duology from Adrienne Young, picks up with Fable in Zola's hands.. headed for the dire straits of the Unnamed Sea.
Having successfully freed the Marigold from Saint, Fable and its crew had big plans for their autonomy. Unfortunately, others have different ideas of their own for her. Though there's a familiar face aboard Zola's ship, it seems clear she's been betrayed.
Caught in the middle of multiple schemes, she's the common denominator in all of them. In order to get home and save those who mean the most to her, Fable must agree to work with Holland.. a vicious woman who runs the Unnamed Sea's gem trade.
If you loved the first book, the second is even better. The story hits the ground running, as things are already out of hand and Fable isn't sure what her future holds. She's surrounded by people she doesn't trust, many of whom look at her like they'd rather kill her than co-exist beside her.
I liked that as the story opened, as a reader.. I felt off-balance myself. There's an adjustment period that we get to experience along with Fable as she's trying to get her bearings and read her situation. She knows she's in trouble, what remains to be seen is how much.. and what the results of that are going to be.
She's still a fighter though and she doesn't whine or complain about what's happening. Rather, she spends her time trying to observe as much as possible and plot a way out.. be that through escape or leverage. Honestly, she's exactly the kind of female protagonist that I don't think we get enough of.
Sure, she makes mistakes and gets herself in deeper sometimes, but she never stops trying. Every time life throws her a complication, she grits her teeth and gets to problem solving. There's no assumption that she's defeated, no polite resignation. She strategizes and tries again.
The story builds continuously throughout, as the circumstances spin further and further out of control. Eventually, there's so much potential for things to go wrong, that you just know something is going to and you find yourself trying to decide what you could let go of if given the choice, while hoping to keep it all.
As for the cast of characters, we do get to see more of her father. He's so closed up in the first book that I was really curious about him. West is still amazing, as is Auster.. and though I still feel like all of these characters could benefit from a lot more detail, it was wonderful to finally get the Auster/Paj origin story.
Now I'm just sad that it was only a duology.. because I desperately want a book three or a bunch of side novels for the supporting cast. Something, anything! I just need more!
Anyway, plenty of action and drama.. lots of familial intrigue.. and some suspense. 'Namesake' is a choppy ride on an angry sea and I loved every minute of it.
This story continues where Fable left off, so be sure to read that book first!
These words come to mind when trying to describe Namesake:
Adventure
Intrigue
Strategy
Betrayal
Family
Love
Found family
The plot often feels like a big chess match, only with lots of participants. Plus you're never quite sure who the players are, who is on what side, or what they're going to do next. Just when I thought I had it all figured out, I was surprised!
I loved the adventure of sailing the sea, diving for gems under pressure in dangerous conditions, and the tense situations and scheming once docked. And of course there's the relationships! You learn more about the crew of the Marigold, about Isolde -- Fable's mother, and about others who shall remain secret until you get to read about them!
Namesake is a fun, tense, thrilling, twisty adventure, and I really enjoyed it! It kept me guessing, and it had a satisfying ending.
Book Review: Namesake (Fable #2)
Title: Namesake
Author: Adrienne Young
Pub. Date: March 16, 2021
Rating: 4.5
This will be a spoiler free review. Thank you to NetGalley and Wednesday Books for providing a free copy in exchange for an honest review. You can check out my review for the first book – Fable if you’re interested. I loved it and it was such a great read!
I legit just finished this book and now I don’t know what to do with myself. Every time I fall in love with books set on the ocean, in ships (whether it’s pirates or sailors or anything in between) the story is over too soon.
This was a great ending for a great duology.
I read like, 50% in one sitting, and if I hadn’t had work, I probably would have stayed up all night reading it.
I will say that there was a moment where the ending was feeling a little anticlimactic, but it pulls through and leaves you wholly satisfied. Also, the whole Holland element wasn’t my favorite, but I do appreciate the emotional weights it causes the crew.
I also think everything happened really fast. Not necessarily a bad thing – but left me wanting more. Just more time spent on everything. I just wanted to spend more time in the world, with the characters, watching everything unfold.
Fable takes so many risks, and it’s nerve-racking, but incredibly satisfying.
West is just a poor troubled, in love boy and I think he needs a hug.
The soft moments between the two of them were just as enjoyable as the ones wrought with emotions, questions and tension. I just love them so much.
The world opened up more and I’m really bummed that this was the conclusion. I could easily read a bunch more books about the crews trading and antics. Like, give me the day to day, just living life stuff. I’ll eat it up. I’m also not ready to say good-bye to West and Fable, so I’d be down for the Happily Ever After stuff.
This book keeps you turning the page, falling in love with the characters and then suddenly you’ve reached the end. Fable and West are adorable – even through the ups and downs. I don’t think I was as blown away with this book, but that might just be because the hype surrounding it hasn’t yet reached a crescendo. Fable was so utterly fantastic and beat all my expectations.
I highly recommend this duology – you won’t regret it. Namesake is out now, so make sure you grab your copy!
{Thank you to NetGalley, Wednesday Books, and MacMillan Audio @macmillan.audio for my gifted copies.}
Last year, Adrienne Young introduced us to Fable. Abandoned and alone, Fable had to fight for survival in a hard, flinty world where softness was a liability. Seeking to return to her infamous father and claim what is hers, she fell in with the crew of the Marigold. As traders, they made their living sailing the capricious seas, but not everything was as it seemed.
I was transported into this treacherous sea-faring world, my appetite for pirates, treasure, and treachery whetted, but then Fable ended with a massive cliffhanger—and I had to wait. And wait.
Fortunately, Namesake picks up right where we left off, and I was excited to plunge back into the world of the Narrows and the Unnamed Sea.
Namesake is decidedly slower-paced than Fable, with even more intrigue and political machinations. The cast of characters grows, with new friends and crafty adversaries. And yet we still venture beneath the waves as Fable and her team dredge the reefs for an elusive gem called midnight.
On a more personal level, Fable continues to wrestle with her unconventional relationship with her father, and her burgeoning relationship with West is tested.
All in all, it was a very satisfying conclusion to this sea-faring duology. Once again, the narration was incredibly well-done, the pacing spot on. @emmaelysy’s performance was emotional and dynamic. Bravo!!
AY has great, transportive writing & it’s really present in Namesake. The diving scenes were my favorite. I do think the whole story could’ve been fleshed out a bit more, and I was missing the romance in this book. But in all, I liked my reading experience, & wouldn’t hesitate to grab her next book.
I found myself quite enjoying Fable last year, and very eager to dive back in with Namesake. (Ha, get it, dive? Such a bad pun, sorry.) It had been a minute since I read Fable, and I do admit that I was a bit lost at first. It took me some time to remember who was on what side, and so on, but eventually, I did! And then the book really picked up.
This series is a great example of why duologies work so well. The first book was exciting, with a good setup for a second book. But since there's no middle book to worry about, the action continues throughout, and the story ends in a very satisfying way. It's enough time to grow to care about the characters, to understand the world, but never feel bogged down by either.
I was never bored while reading this series, and was engaged and excited to find out what would become of Fable (and frankly, the whole Marigold crew). I wanted to know her family secrets, and see her finally find some peace and happiness. This series fully delivered, both in terms of action and satisfaction.
Bottom Line: It's a fun and engaging duology with an awesome cast of characters and tons of excitement. Definitely recommend.
Namesake picks up right after the ending of Fable. It introduces new characters and new conflict to an already enthralling story. Namesake was atmospheric and captivating just like the first book. This book took some unexpected twists, and most of my predictions were completely wrong.
This book is more plot-driven rather than focusing on the characters, but we do get some much-needed backstory for some of the characters. Though I do wish Fable's friendships with some of the other characters were explored more. The romance is more believable in this one and I found myself rooting for them. The father-daughter relationship dynamics was beautifully written. The addition of Koy, Clove, and Holland added more intrigue to the story.
Namesake wrapped up everything neatly and was a lovely conclusion to the duology.
What an absolutely beautiful conclusion to this series. It gave me everything I needed and more. Readers who loved the first as much as I did will not be disappointed.
Thanks to NetGalley and the publisher for the eARC in exchange for an honest review!
4.5 / 5 stars.
No spoilers in this review!
As soon as I heard that Fable was going to be a duology, I was excited to see what was next for the series. I loved Fable when I read it last year, and Namesake was the perfect continuation of the story. This story picks up right where Fable left off, and we get to follow Fable on her next adventures, as she continues her journey of who she is and where she fits in the world. I'm not going to say much more than that about the plot, since I don't want to spoil anything, but we're introduced to some new characters and new locations in this next chapter of Fable's journey.
As with Fable, Adrienne's writing pulled me in from the beginning. The way she's able to create a rich world for these characters to inhabit, all while keeping the plot moving and making the story and the characters the focus of the book. It's a true gift; the characters and the settings really come alive with Adrienne's descriptions. Through all the peaks and valleys of Fable's journey, the ever changing and evolving relationships between the characters are one of my favorite parts of the story. I love so many of the characters, and I would have loved to spend many more pages adventuring with them. As much as I wished for more time spent with the characters, I think the length of the book and the pacing suited the story perfectly.
Fable, West, and The Marigold are going to have a place in my heart and on my shelf for a long time.
Many thanks to the author, publisher, and NetGalley for the digital copy in exchange for an honest review. All opinions are my own.
I’m still loving this YA pirate girl trend, so of course I was excited to get back to Fable’s world. Also, I adore how the covers form Fable’s face! This is the second in the duology, and can’t be read as a standalone, so this review will contain spoilers for the first book.
“We were salt and sand and sea and storm.
We were made in the Narrows.”
At the end of the last book, things were finally looking up for Fable – and then she got kidnapped by Zola and his crew. Though she initially thinks he just intends to get back at West, it soon becomes clear that there’s more going on than just that. For one thing, Clove, once her father’s second-in-command and a good friend to her mother, is now on Zola’s ship and apparently a trusted member of his crew. What sort of betrayal would have driven him away from Saint? Unmoored and uncertain, afraid of what West and the rest of the Marigold will do to get her back, if they’re even trying to find her, Fable can only do what she does best – survive.
It’s very hard to talk about this book without going into too many spoilers. Suffice it to say that, while it’s a lot of adventurous and plot-driven pirate-y goodness, it also focuses on the relationships between Fable and the three main people in her life: her mother, Isolde; her father, Saint; and the newest and most uncertain thing with West. There’s not a lot of new character development, except between Fable and West, though we do get a bit more in terms of background for some of the Marigold's crew. There’s also a few surprising cameos from old characters, plus some new ones, including a delightful new villain. But while they’re there and serve to move the plot along, they never felt fully fleshed out to me.
“That first day on the Marigold came rushing back to me, standing in the passageway with my hand pressed to the crest on the door. I had been a stranger in that place, but I’d come to belong there. And now everything within me ached for it. A flash of heat lit beneath my skin, the sting of tears gathering in my eyes. Because I’d been a fool. I’d let myself believe, even if it was just for a moment, that I was safe. That I’d found a home and a family. And in the time it took to draw a single breath, it was all torn away.”
What struck me most was Fable’s longing for a home and family. After she’s kidnapped, she truly finally realizes how much the Marigold has become her home. A large part of that is West, sure, but it’s also the crew and the freedom she experienced there. It’s not too much of a spoiler to say that, of course, West finds her, but it’s just as she finally starts to understand that her kidnapping was a small piece in a much larger plot, one that will lead to Saint’s death. Fable’s relationship with him is the definition of complicated, and she can’t just walk away from him (like he did to her). But that decision strains her relationship with West and the rest of the Marigold, leading her to question where, exactly, her true loyalties lie, and whether the Marigold can ever be her home again.
“You can’t keep trying to take control of everything. You can’t save everyone, West.”
Both Zola and Saint have warned Fable that she doesn’t really know West, that there’s a streak of darkness in him that she hasn’t seen yet. While Fable initially scoffs at it, further events cause her to question her understanding of him and what lengths he’ll go to to keep his crew – and her – safe. And how dare the person who abandoned her on Jeval lecture her about drastic actions? But while Fable and West have a lot to handle in the relationship, it doesn’t even hold a candle to the massive amount of “it’s complicated” between Fable and Saint. As with the other plot lines from the first book, there is some resolution to their relationship, though I wasn’t completely satisfied with it.
Overall, this is a fast-paced and engaging read, and definitely recommended if you need more pirates in your life.
I received an advance review copy of this book from NetGalley. This does not affect my opinion of the book or the content of my review.
Following the events of Fable (the book), Fable (the young woman) is captive aboard the ship of a man who her mother once knew. He is also a man who has threatened the crew she sails with, sabotaged their boat, and generally made life rather unsavory, even considering the danger of life in the Narrows. Strangely, somebody she once thought dead is alive, and if he's alive, it's clear that her parents kept many secrets from her. The question, of course, is why. In order to secure her freedom and keep the people she loves safe, Fable must keep her wits about her and put it all on the line.
If you remember my review of Fable, and even if you don't, I loved it, and Namesake lives up to its protagonist's namesake novel as well! The stakes are higher than ever with Fable captive onboard a certain unsavory person's ship, and getting out of that sticky situation is not easy. Sometimes, escape is possible, other times, you have to wheel and deal. Fable's special abilities certainly come into play, while West, of course, wants to find her and get her back. There are twists that happen along the way, and new revelations about the past, about Fable's dead family and the problems they left for Fable, and about the secrets those who still live carry with them. Fable is really handed a raw deal in all of this, though what choice does she have but to take it in stride? This second half of the duology focuses more on Fable and her blood family than her life with her found family, which created a somewhat different dynamic. Namesake is a satisfying conclusion to the Fable duology, though I wish I could spend more time in the Narrows with all these cutthroat traders and their waterborne intrigue. Recommended for fans of the first novel and lovers of the sea, treacherous as she may be.
If you enjoyed Fable, you’ll probably enjoy Namesake – you honestly might enjoy it more, depending on why, exactly, you liked Fable!
Personally, I seem to have grown a particular appetite for books that hurt and devastate me. The ones that make me stop, mid-read, and gasp or make a comment before I realize I’ve spoken. The kind that make me tempted to throw the book across the room, and not because it’s that terrible – but rather because it’s that good.
While this book wasn’t that for me, it was still a pleasant and enjoyable read. If you like books to not destroy you or hurt you, and you enjoy pirate-y reads, this book may just be for you!
Recommendation: If you loved Fable, you’ll probably enjoy Namesake. If you’ve been waiting to pick up Fable until Namesake is out, or until you’ve read reviews for the completed duology, my opinion on this book is very similar to my opinion of Fable: if you’re interested in the rougher, more cutthroat side of the sea and sailing, Namesake might just be the book for you. Namesake continues Fable’s story, showing you a new side of the sailing world Fable has dedicated her life to. If you wanted to see another perspective to the world you get submerged into in Fable, Namesake continues that and expands it.
You have a strong, female main character, pirates, a pleasant writing style, a predictable romance, and some mystery. I didn’t love or feel for these characters much, sadly. It’s an enjoyable read, I loved the books, but I don’t think I’ll be rereading them unless somehow prompted to. It doesn’t measure against books like Illuminae [and the rest of that series], The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue [which spoke to my soul in a way that still hurts], Chain of Gold [which, I totally understand is a controversial thing to say, but I can’t help loving Cordelia], and other such books that practically demand I reread them on a nearly-daily basis.
Does that mean I don’t, or won’t, suggest this book [or this series] to other people? Absolutely not! It’s just the kind of book I would only suggest to the few people I think would enjoy it. It’s almost a palette cleanser kind of book, and I was glad of it when I got it. The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue was still haunting me, and it was difficult to read anything else equally heavy or devastating – which is why I won’t say this book isn’t good because it isn’t on that level. Because, honestly, it isn’t easy to read heavy and/or devastating books back-to-back without even one lighter, “palette-cleansing” read.
Fable and Namesake are those types of books, in my opinion.
See my book review blog for a review that continues into spoilers!
I really enjoyed reading Fable (Fable, #1), the first in this duology, when it was released last year, so when I saw this one on NetGalley, I knew I had to request it! I truly appreciate the publisher and NetGalley for giving me the chance to read and review an ARC of Namesake because I really loved reading it!
What I love when I read is to be able to escape into another world and visit someone else’s life for a while. I absolutely was able to do that here in Namesake. The world surrounding the sea, harbors, and ships is one that I don’t have any experience with, and yet, I love reading about being near the sea since I tend to miss it during the winter. It’s also a place that frightens me because I’m not a very good swimmer. Therefore, to read how natural it is for Fable and some other characters to be able to swim deep into the ocean without much fear, if any, is inspiring and motivating for me to try to be more comfortable swimming in the ocean.
Another aspect that I really enjoyed was the romance woven into the text. It is clear that Fable and West are in love and are rooted together no matter what. Their previous mistakes, the dealings they end up making to help each other out, family issues, etc. None of that matters as long as the two have each other. I found that the author described their love as a deeper, connected one and it was lovely to read how they both cannot stand to not be with the other and not know if the other is safe. Then, when the author chooses West and Fable to have certain drawbacks or silence between the two, it felt real and something I could imagine happening to those who are at high risk situations. As a side note, there is more than just kissing in certain scenes, but not over the top or too much (at least for me). The addition of these scenes were sprinkled in the book rather than taking over the story, which I found to be perfect in a story like this one.
The author also does a nice job in creating an exciting plot which kept me captivating the entire read. Adventures at sea, betrayals, questionable motives, backstabbing, and seeing the true colors of someone you thought you knew are some of the ways the author created an enticing read. It was one that I actually am sad is over and won’t see Fable again…
Speaking of Fable, she was one of my favorite characters in the duology. She is developed extremely well, portrays varying emotions without it being overkill, is loyal and considerate of others while being a strong-willed independent young woman.
Overall, Namesake is a fantasy that I loved reading and will be on the lookout for more of Adrienne Young books! I would highly recommend this read to those who enjoyed the first one, and who enjoy to read a fantasy based on life on the sea and told by a strong young woman.
Thanks to NetGalley for an arc in exchange for an honest review.
I liked this book. I didn't love it. It could be because not too long ago I read (and re-read) Daughter of the Pirate King and Daughter of the Siren Queen by Tricia Levenseller. In comparison to that duology, this one fell a little short for me. I think it was the lack of banter and witty comments :)
I enjoyed Fable and read it in one sitting. Namesake picks up right where the latter leaves off, with Fable trying to figure out why Clove is working with Zola and how to find a way off his ship and back to her crew. The primary focus of Namesake delves into Fable's past and who her mother, Isolde, was and all of her secrets. I thought this was a great extension from the first book.
Fable is kidnapped and forced to work for Zola in order to get off his ship. Unfortunately, Zola has additional plans for her which include handing her off to Holland to earn her back her favor. Fable ends up going from being a prisoner of Zola's to a prisoner of Holland's. Fable strikes a deal with Holland to find a particular gem in exchange for her freedom and the safety of her father. Meanwhile, West and his crew are going to every port burning down ships in search of Fable. Eventually, he finds her on Bastian. The crew gets wrapped into Fable's plans/deals to free herself from Holland and ultimately return to the Marigold. Not everyone is thrilled with this turn of events.
As Fable searches for this particular gem, she finds herself constantly trying to stay ahead of everyone's schemes, including Holland's, Clove's, and her fathers. She takes some big risks that have potential consequences for her crew and herself.
I enjoyed the fast paced plot. The constant turn of events and surprises made the book engaging and keeps you curious about how everything will turn out. Some of it felt a little predictable, but I think the story line won out for me.
I'm choosing to give it a four star rating simply because it wasn't a book I was so captivated by that I read it in one sitting like Fable. I simultaneously read other books that held my interest more so. Needless to say, I think it's a great follow up to Fable and worth the read.
Thank you to Netgalley for giving me an arc of Namesake for my honest review.
This review hurts me to write. I enjoyed Fable and appreciated its simplicity, but I anticipated getting more from Namesake. Instead, we’re given the same plot devices, and frankly, I was bored the entire time.
I enjoy Adrienne Young’s writing style, and I know this book / series was deeply personal to her, but I had a difficult time connecting.
Everything was predictable, there were several parts that were completely pointless, and the characters I loved in Fable were practically nonexistent. The relationships didn’t develop the way I hoped they would, so by the end of the book, I was just relieved it was over. I wish instead Fable & Namesake was made into one book that would have been a faster paced stand alone.
Namesake is the sequel to the young adult fantasy Fable by Adrienne Young. In the second part of the Fable duology we find the main character kidnapped and conscripted into diving for her enemy, Zola. She is doubly betrayed when she finds family friend Clove willingly working for Zola as his navigator.
Fable will do anything to survive Zola’s demands so that she can work her way back to West and the Marigold. But everyone has hidden agendas and Fable finds herself making deals and signing contracts that put her in direct conflict with family, friends and West. At the center of it all is Fable’s desire to reconnect with her father the enigmatic fleet captain, Saint.
Adrienne Young continues to delight me with her beautiful novels. Fable is a fantastic main character that is strong without being wildly unrealistic and her ability to read stones is a subtle magic in a YA genre crowded with “the chosen one” trope. I highly recommend this duology for fantasy fans of all ages especially anyone that enjoys seafaring adventures and families lost and found.
5 stars ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
My copy of Namesake by Adrienne Young was provided by NetGalley and the publisher for review purposes
Fable was one of my favorite reads from 2020. Considering the cliffhanger that it ended with, I would have started Namesake immediately if I had it in my possession. So when I saw it for review request, I jumped on it. And read it as soon as I could.
Due to the nature of events--Fable being kidnapped by Zola--Namesake didn't exactly start off in the best of places. She's surrounded by enemies that pose a threat to her even if they've been warned not to touch her. Zola needs her to do a job for him along with as many other dredgers as he can get. What's more, Clove, who used to be her father's right-hand man, is crewing for Zola as well. Fable takes this to mean that even he can't be trusted. I won't discuss much more about the plot so that I don't spoil anything.
Fable isn't even sure that West will look for her, but she should have known better. West is willing to do just about anything to get Fable back. He's determined not to return to the Narrows without her. Even at the detriment of himself, his crew, his ship... anything is fair game in his attempt to save Fable. I felt slightly conflicted because these two could use some communication skills, but trust and love were there between them.
All of the side characters were lively even if I wish we'd had a little more time with them, particularly Koy and Willa. Even Saint didn't have much of a role. I mean he was integral but also absent.
The world is still one of my favorite parts of this series. The ships and the dives. The gems and various ports of call. All of that made this world a place I'd love to return to in the future.
I won't say that I enjoyed Namesake quite as much as Fable, but it was a pretty good follow up. So much of the plot was about one-upping the various big bad enemies. But I enjoyed the relationships and world-building. I would love to read more books in this setting. Namesake gets 4 Stars. Have you read Namesake ? What did you think? Let me know!
This follow-up to 2020's Fable will leave you breathless and fulfilled. Questions are answered, the crew is back, and the world may be... not so great, but that's okay. :)