Member Reviews
This is a long, hard look at the deep anger and disgruntlement of a community of mostly white, single men who designate themselves as “incels”. This is short for intentionally celebate, as they see it. They are largely a group of men who are unhappy with their status in society. They have been raised to expect life to work out according to their plans. They want good jobs, nice homes, subservient wives who are tradwives, and families. When young women push back in the form of not being attracting to them or out right rejecting them, they blame society and women in particular. With social media as pervasive as it is, these men can group together in the digital world and foment their hatred. Hatred towards women and towards anyone who they may see as displacing them in a relationship or job.
This group has become more vocal publicly as they have been emboldened by the far right political scene. These men have often been at the center of hate filled controversy and actions.
Bates covers this disturbing trend thoroughly and fully.. This is a difficult read but certainly relevant to our current times.
Initially, I worried about reading a book with this title, but damn glad I did because holy crap! There are A LOT of seriously messed up people on this planet. This info is terrifying.
Author Laura Bates did a deep dive into the dark web world of men who do not want women to have any control over their lives, their finances, or their bodies. Not only do these guys seem to have a lot in common (racism, religious zealots, etc), but they are recruiting, building their world because for some reason a bunch of white dudes feel cheated if their laundry isn't folded and dinner isn't on the table when they decide to come home.
This is not an easy read. You might have to take it in parts. YOu might even think some of it is fictitious, but as ugly as this part of society is, it cannot be ignored.
I received an ARC of this book from the publisher in exchange for an honest review.
A clear and insightful (if terrifying) book about the various groups of people who just hate women, what fuels them and how they go about expressing this hatred. It was a depressing read, as Laura gives blow after blow of facts and examples of how women have been attacked online and in 'real life' by individuals who attack their victims with misogynistic intentions. They're a real threat, and Laura shows how the groups because they're often white, are iverloooed and not taken seriously. Society prefers to shrug off sexist comments as 'boys being boys' but this complacency has lead to a culture that is incredibly dangerous for women.
Terrifying reading, and if I take anything away from this it's that we must teach our children, especially boys, about respect in equality.
One of the absolute most frustrating, yet informative, books. It’s exhausting & maddening. It’s tough & depressing. BUT… it’s a necessary read & one that’s very well written. Laura Bates completely nails it on the head with this subject. After reading Talia Levin’s “Culture Warlords” last year, I knew I had to add this book to my list, as well. While touching on the same topics, Bates goes into more detail on just how widespread and deeply engrained in our culture misogyny is & why that is. It’s clear Bates conducted a lot of research on the topic and it definitely shows in her writing. Unlike Levin, she took a more academic approach to the topic, which was an interesting juxtaposition.
Men see women’s autonomy as a major threat to them and the power and control they think they (and only they, not women) deserve, which is disgusting, upsetting, oppressive, and pathetic. It needs to be addressed, debated, and just talked about, in general (!!) - way more widely than it currently is & it needs to be done so on a larger stage. As Bates writes, “We can’t tackle a problem if people don’t even know it exists. And once we do know, we all have a responsibility to answer a simple question, which is: ‘What are we going to do about it?’. The shift we need to see IS achievable.” I really do believe everyone - and I mean EVERYONE, especially men! - needs to read this book, because as Bates points out numerous times, this is such an urgent issue in our society and around the world. So read this and then suggest it to all of your friends and family. I truly cannot emphasize that enough.
Thank you to NetGalley and Sourcebooks for providing me with a copy of the e-book in exchange for an honest review.
men who hate women is essential reading for every single person, particularly those of us living in canada, the US, australia, and europe.
this book is a call to action and blueprint for paradigmatic shift. it is an act of lucid, critical resistance.
laura bates writes compelling, urgently. her words, girded with clear-eyed empathy, carry propulsive power. she traces, in specific and lengthy detail, the ways in which real, irrevocable harm is done to people of all genders by the men who hate women.
this book is not excoriating. it is illuminating and galvanizing. it is not comprised of sweeping statements, but precise and razor-sharp, backed by specific statistics, anecdotes, quotes from online articles and firsthand interviews, and a plethora of citations. this book is extensively researched; i would even add that is has been painstakingly, gruellingly researched, given the way bates immersed herself in spaces catered to extreme misogynists.
bates urges us not to underestimate the size, power, influence, and potential for online and offline violence. her arguments draw connections across communities and movements, underscoring the sheer numbers and actively disrupting the myth of the “deranged lone wolf”. the book elucidates the self-contradictory and exploitative rhetoric propelling various groups in the "manosphere", from men's right's activists (reactionary groups actively seeking to undermine feminists and activists at the expense of the very men they claim to champion) to pick-up artists and incels. what's more, bates repeatedly hammers home the point that the manosphere feeds into and feeds off alt-right extremists. in this way, she highlights the crucial ways in which we - media, governments, layfolk - must shift our perceptions, representations, and understanding of the vitriolic manosphere and the men who become radicalized and swept into its on/offline violence.
some social justice books do phenomenal, outstanding jobs of outlining the problems - without providing solutions that are specific, detailed, realistic, and scalable. bates resists this imbalance. her final chapter is comprehensive and grounded in actionable items, their rationale and steps laid clear.
throughout this book, i was blown away by bates' ability to hold empathy *and* accountability for all involved. she eloquently, deliberately sidesteps the inflammatory, superficial, one-sided ranting best exemplified by the communities she writes about. instead, her book expends patience and compassion describing the ways in which these men are not all the same, uplifting the plight of men who suffer harm and deserve support. yet never does she let off the steam on pointing out all the ways in which individuals and groups of the manosphere must be held accountable for the harm they encourage and perpetuate toward women, BIPOC, LGBTQ+ folks, and other men.
i reiterate: everyone needs to read this book.
following the me too movement and Laura Bates book Everyday Sexism I always follow what she releases as i find her direct straight forward voice.
This book was insightful and angering with its truth. I feel like the title is eye-catching, but did not fully encompass what the subject matter entailed. This describes many of the things that we women go through on a daily basis. Some of her undercover work disclosed truly disturbing quotes in this book. As a victim of sexual violence by a man, these types of books are needed, and more people should be reading them.
Really thought provoking and insightful. This is a very well thought out and intelligently written book.
Long book but important read with many topics that are hit. Some aren't talked about enough too! I feel like some of this could have been condensed. Thank you for the advanced copy of this book!
I was given an eArc through NetGalley for this book and went on to by the Kindle edition with Audible narration.
This is my second book by Laura Bates after being introduced to her through a friend who mentioned the Everyday Sexism Project. I have read Everyday Sexism and own Misogination.
This book was significantly more shocking to me than Everyday Sexism was. I don’t know if I’m blind to the manosphere influence or just particularly sheltered I can honestly say I only heard of some of these groups for the first time. I can’t say I enjoyed this book but it was certainly enlightening.
This books is disturbing and unsettling but it's also one all women should read to understand what's going on in our world.
Even if the style of writing is a bit dry once I started reading I felt I had to go on as the topic is very interesting.
Highly recommended.
Many thanks to the publisher and Netgalley for this ARC, all opinions are mine
Depressingly relevant book, and I have a feeling it will continue to be so for a long time. I did find the writing style a bit dry, which surprised me as I haven't had this issue with Bates' other writing, but perhaps that's because she's really delving into some unsavoury characters here. Bates doesn't pretend to have the answers, but she goes further in asking the question 'why do some men despise women' than many journalists and authors have attempted, and I think the result is that we can see the truth of the problem a little better. As for how we fix it - well. That's another book entirely.
Review in the Forward.
https://forward.com/culture/465346/the-dangerous-hate-movement-we-need-to-talk-about-laura-bates-misogyny/
The writing is quite dry and not particularly enjoyable to read, but this is still a vital book and should be taught in schools. A lot of the earlier chapters on incels and MRAs covered details I'm already familiar with (having seen/read analysis of that grim side-alley of the internet several times), but as the book progressed and got steadily darker, horrible new worlds opened up. It's the sort of book that should be read slowly, over a long period of time, rather than all at once, in case the reader gives up on all men entirely. It's very well researched and important, and if you can get past the dry and slightly awkward style it's a valuable read.
Interesting but found it hard to read due to the heavy material and nature of the subject matter. It tended to feel a bit repetitive and akin to reading a text book. While deeply depressing it was a worthwhile read to better understand such an important topic.
THIS BOOK SHOULD BE COMPULSORY READING FOR EVERY ADULT.
I went on an absolute rollercoaster with this book. The words had extra impact, due to the current news stories in the UK. But, even without considering this, the book contains facts and stories and experiences that all women are all too aware of, something that only made the book more heart-breaking.
The book is well researched and is very well put together to ensure that it is discussing a minority of men who engage in the various behaviours covered. Not all men engage in this behaviour, but the men who do are out there, flawed, misguided and even dangerous, and this book is a huge reveal of a culture that many are not aware of. Even those who are aware may not realise the extent that these men make an impact, and how they cross boundaries with so many other dangerous groups, including the far right.
This book is not for the faint hearted, and will definitely take a toll on those who read it. But everyone should read it. It is important to raise awareness of these cultures and beliefs, for our friends, for the future, for our families and for our students.
A harrowing but crucial 5 star success.
I adored, adored Laura Bates’ masterpiece Everyday Sexism, and her latest, Men Who Hate Women: From Incels to Pickup Artists: The Truth about Extreme Misogyny and How It Affects Us All, proves as illuminating. I had heard about the misogynist nightmare that was GamerGate, but there was so much in this book that I didn’t know, particularly how pervasive incel and Men’s Right Activist lingo has become. I began to recognize memes and turns of phrase that I see on Facebook from men who don’t know where their faulty arguments and misconceptions come from. Highly, highly, highly recommended.
Men Who Hate Women was a very unsettling read. I've heard about the incel community and vaguely heard of the manosphere. But to fully learn the extent of how far this world reached was frightening. I suggest that many women read this book. It's extremely informative
** A copy of Men Who Hate Women was provided by the publisher and NetGalley in exchange for an honest review **
This book was very unsettling to read, even as someone who researches gender and sexual violence on a daily basis. It's unsettling because it takes you to various pockets of the Internet to show you just how misogyny and sexism are slowly entrenched in our daily lives. It's scary because these seemingly small pockets aren't that small - they're growing and have been mainstreamed. It's scary because you can see the rage build and how that rage could (and does) so easily manifest itself as outward physical and sexual violence. Bates does an excellent job in building the case that toxic masculinity is at the heart of this, and the only solution is to dismantle the imperialist racist capitalist heteronormative patriarchy!
This is a difficult read as as it was read as an endless stream of figures who aren't nice and figures who were actively hateful towards innocent parties and those who they believed had wronged them. Laura Bates has good writing and I did like her book and how it was formatted as the writing was generally acceptable and she made clear and coherent arguments about the man who are part of the insult community. This is definitely your book you have to be in the right mindset to read as it is a difficult book to process if you aren't mentally strong enough.