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I’ll be honest, after reading The Silence of the Girls, I didn’t really understand why there was a sequel but I am so glad I read this. I cannot put into words how much I love Briseis and how desperately I want to see her happy and free. The way the book explored her newfound position as a married woman rather than a slave was so interesting and it was incredible to see her use her (admittedly very small amount of) power to try and change things for the rest of the women; to make things better for them than they were for her. I kind of wish we had less of the male perspective because I didn’t really think it added much or was necessary to the story.
I just loved this book. The writing is fluid and beautiful and lyrical and the characters are so well written and believable. Not to mention the cover is gorgeous. Sometimes you don’t need a huge plot driven extravaganza for a book to be enjoyable, sometimes a simple character based story is all you need and this is simply one of the best.
Another great addition to my collection of Greek mythology retellings! I hadn’t realised at first that this book was the second in a series and followed on from the first book, The Silence of the Girls, something I’ll be adding to my tbr.
Anyhoo, I loved the storytelling of this book, the characters, the background, the history surrounding the Trojan war. Although fictional, Pat Barker does a great job in reimagining this tale but also staying true to the original story and characters despite new fictional parameters.
The war is over, Troy is no more, the Greeks are working through how to live with their victory. And we are in the world of the women on both sides, dealing with the aftermath.
As with all of Pat Barker's books, the reader knows they are in good hands. And this is a nicely done book, with slices of horror and reality mixed in with the surreal nature of hearing the names of these women and feeling they are *real*, not just myths and stories.
It's hardly an uplifting read, but it isn't meant to be. Entertaining but educating, those who love a book like this will absolutely love it. It probably isn't totally for me, but I learned a lot and can see it was an engaging and interesting tale.
I absolutely loved The Silence of the Girls, so I was so excited to receive an eARC of The Women of Troy, but it left me feeling so disappointed.
There were some glimpses of Barker's beautiful writing that I adored in the previous book, but this one felt so dry and lacked direction. Also, the language style didn't fit with the time period which made some of the dialogue feel out of place.
I really wanted to love this but it sadly wasn't for me. Nevertheless, I'm still excited to read more by the author in the future.
Many thanks to the author, publisher, and Netgalley for sending me a copy of this book in return for an honest review.
Actual rating: 2.5 / 5
Once again, I was left disappointed that the focus still seemed centered on the men.
I found that the conversation between characters felt jilted and didn't flow. I can understand that may be due to the slaver-slave narrative but it feels more like the writing style not meshing with my tastes.
I got through this faster than I expected. Probably because.....
Random note: I listened to portions of this through Kindle's text-to-speech and it didn't sound too awful. It just lacked emotion and enunciation of certain words. It gave me what I needed which was to carry on when I couldn't physically read it for whatever reason (e.g. work). It was accessible for the time and did what I needed it to do.
Though very readable, in contradiction, I can't say it was much of page turner. It was dull and I just didn't care for the men focused narrative again. We did get slightly less of it, but it still prevailed over the women of Troy.
I don't know... I can see so many merits in terms of shedding light on history and a different narrative but it didn't live up to my expectations of what it said it would offer, so unfortunately I most likely won't pick up anything else by this author.
This isn't to say it was a bad book by any means, I just didn't care for it how I wanted to.
real rating 3.75
I love Barker's writing style; it's unique, poetic, and captivating. Nonetheless, it lacked that captivating quality in this book. I think it has more to do with the plot than with her writing. Also, it was a bit confusing in the beginning to follow the timeline and what character's POV we were reading. After a while, it got easier. I also liked the new perspective in this greek myth where women had no voice. It was fantastic to read from their view. However, I found Brises a bit hard to like at times. She was too harsh and judgmental with other women.
I'm looking forward to reading more books by Pat Braker. And I do recommend this book to anyone who likes Greek mythology or wants to learn more about it.
Thanks to Netgalley and Penguin Random House for the
I read this as research for my current role in History non-fiction publishing. I would be interested to commission a similar title from a non-fiction point of view, and on a personal note I enjoyed this as much as I enjoyed reading 'Silence of the Girls,' that is to say, very much!
Thank you to the publisher and to NetGalley for allowing me to view this digital download edition.
This sequel to The Silence of the Girls is beautifully written and has an interesting subject matter. However, like it's predecessor it starts very well, is gripping and engaging but loses some momentum in the third quarter. Thankfully it picks up again towards the end. While this is historical fiction / myth retelling it is, sadly, as relevant today as it has ever been.
‘The Women of Troy’ is the second of the Trojan War novels by Pat Barker, telling the post-war story of Trojan woman Briseis, a trophy of war owned by Achilles. I loved the first, ‘The Silence of the Girls’, but wanted to hear the stories of more of the women. That’s what we get in this second book.
Briseis, now pregnant with Achilles’ child, is again narrator along with a new male voice, that of Pyrrhus, eldest son of Achilles and Briseis’ stepson. Now Achilles is dead Briseis belongs to Alcimus, charged by Achilles before his death with caring for his unborn child.
The story starts with Pyrrhus inside the wooden horse, constructed by the Greeks, to trick the Trojans. ‘Inside the horse’s gut: heat, darkness, sweat, fear. They’re crammed in, packed as tight as olives in a jar.’ It is Pyrrhus who kills Priam, king of the Trojans, and that murder echoes throughout ‘The Women of Troy’. As storms rage – punishment of the victorious Greeks by the Gods for their impious behaviour – the army and its captives are now trapped on the beach waiting for a chance to sail home. This enclosure at close quarters raises emotions, tensions, jealousies and pride. As Alcimus arranges games – chariot racing, archery, spear throwing, wrestling – Briseis acts as a mother-figure for the other women, all now slaves.
Barker explores the after-effects of war on the Trojan women during these empty days – Hecuba, widow of Priam, and Cassandra, her daughter; Andromache, wife of Hector now concubine to Pyrrhus – high-born Trojan women now slaves in the households of their Greek victors, as concubines, whores, cooks and housemaids.
The story is about survival on the edge of despair when women are secondary creatures deemed without opinions or rights, exploring how women individually and collectively find ways to live. There is bravery, despair, foolishness, obsession and madness. When the actions of Pyrrhus are questioned, Briseis must remember the events of one night when Achilles was alive. ‘Both of us [Briseis and Cassandra, another witness] were women – and a woman’s testimony is not considered equal to a man’s. In a court of law, if a man and woman disagree it’s almost invariably his version of events that’s accepted. And that’s in a courtroom – how much more so in this camp where all the women were Trojan slaves and the only real law was force.’
But this is also the story of Pyrrhus, a young man who struggles to match the reputation of a father he never felt close to, a father lauded as a God. These were brutal times when small mistakes were punished by death and Pyrrhus, who has few friends, takes risks and makes bad decisions.
This book works as a standalone story as well as companion to ‘The Silence of the Girls’. Both are magnificent examples of storytelling by an author at the peak of her writing. Faithful to the myths, Barker is an inventive writer who adds her own interpretations and twists.
Excellent, I whizzed through this in no time. Will there be a third novel? I hope so.
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The Women of Troy by Pat Barker
(Please see trigger warnings before reading. This review will also contain spoilers for the first book.
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“We’re going to survive–our songs, our stories. They’ll never be able to forget us. Decades after the last man who fought at Troy is dead, their sons will remember the songs their Trojan mothers sang to them. We’ll be in their dreams–and in their worst nightmares too.” ― Pat Barker, The Silence of the Girls
The sequel to ‘The Silence of The Girls’, Barker continues the story of the Trojan women who were stolen, enslaved and separated from their families, and are currently awaiting for their fate in the camps. With unrest growing stronger, old and new hatred are flaring and the gods do not seem pleased with the events unfolding, causing further danger and risk for the women and the life they unwillingly find themselves in.
It begins inside the Wooden Horse with a flashback to the time when the Greeks were hidden inside, waiting to see if Odysseus’ trick will work. The story then unfolds as the Greeks wait to return home victorious. However with the delays affecting their journey home and the tensions raising, anger and bitterness are ensuring constant fights.
Barker cleverly continues to give voice to the unsung heroes of the Trojan war - the women. Briseis remains the narrator and continues to navigate the harsh reality the women find themselves in. Having been the prize trophy of Achilles in the first book, Briseis is now married to Alcimus, whilst carrying Achielles’ unborn child. Finding herself a woman of status now, she continues to still feel a connection with the enslaved women, and seeks to do all she can to bring them together and keep them from as much as harm as possible. Her practicality and heart shows her resilience and the women’s ability to survive the most desperate, harrowing and precarious of situations. The trauma, despair, and grief these women are feeling pours out from the pages and you feel as if you are there beside them. Their emotional story is sensitively, yet starkly woven with the story of Troy and I absolutely loved reading the experiences of these unsung voices.
Though the focus is on the female characters, the male secondary characters are also cleverly written. Though I would have loved more of a view point from some of the other women personally, it also adds further context to which the women find themselves in. Especially as the male characters find themselves wilting under the unrest and the macho honour codes, especially the young Pyrrhus who is consistently over overshadowed by his father, Achilles, who is now five months dead and yet who’s memory and fame still shines throughout.
Whilst I can see why some would find the pace and writing quite slow and admittedly I found this in places, I also found it captivating and written with passion and finesse. The atmosphere of doom, and lack of victory hangs in the air, even more so from the first book. The maltreatment of the conquered and their long-suffering patience is paired with the perceived inadequacies of the the men, as well as the desire for revenge and also peace. It’s a story of life and survival and it's captivating.
A chilling and powerful retelling, I can’t wait to read the next book. I would highly recommend for fans of greek mythology and those looking for a feminist retelling from the unsung heroes.
Anything that Pat Barker writes makes it onto my To Be Read list. The same goes for the retelling of Greek Myths. The Women of Troy by Pat Barker picks up the story of Siege of Troy just as the Trojan horse is inching its way into the city. As with The Silence of the Girls we see events through Briseis eyes. Kings and soldiers roar around the perimeter of the story whilst the women take centre stage. In much the same way as I binge watched Ghosts, I binge read The Women of Troy in a day and now feel slightly sad that it is finished. Now I’m eagerly awaiting Pat Barker’s next novel.
I enjoyed the women of Troy. It was a well paced book with lots of references to what we think we know about that period in time.
The switches between the characters at times were very sudden and it took a few pages before you catch up with whom you are reading but overall very enjoyable and easy to read.
Having thoroughly enjoyed The Silence of the Girls by the same author, I think I expected too much. However, it is an interesting and informative novel. My thanks to Netgalley for the arc.
Troy has fallen. Feuds are bubbling up and soldiers are at breaking point.
The women who have been left to fend for themselves must come together to survive. The novel continues the story for the women of Troy, who have previously gone unheard.
I preferred THE SILENCE OF THE GIRLS to this - the former felt like it had more to give and was more of a developed plot. It's still well written but the story didn't work for me as well this time.
Having read and enjoyed The Silence of the Girls, I was delighted to read this sequel, The Women of Troy. The story is still mostly told from Briseis' perspective (as in the first book) and includes many of the same characters.
Pat Barker writes beautifully and the story is wonderfully imagined and vividly portrayed. However there were so many characters, some with similar sounding names (Helle, Helenus, Hecuba and Hecamede, for example) that I found I really had to concentrate hard and occasionally got confused about who was who, which was frustrating. Overall though it's an excellent read.
With grateful thanks to NetGalley and Penguin General UK for my copy in exchange for an honest review.
Thank you to the publisher for my eARC copy of this book. Unfortunately I didn’t love this book and therefore didn’t finish, I just didn’t connect with this one. Not for me, sorry.
I really enjoyed this one! Ive been listening to a Greek Mythology podcast recently and it really put me in the mood :)
I wasn’t a huge fan of the first book (the Silence of the Girls) but I wanted to give the author another shot.
I really liked how atmospheric the book was, even though the plot wasn’t particularly advanced.
I also appreciated how the chapters weren’t as long as I remember from the first book which made for a much more exciting read!
4 stars
Thank you so much to Doubleday and NetGalley for providing me with an e-ARC of this book.
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I requested this book because I love Greek Mythology and I enjoyed Par Barker’s previous book ‘Silence of the Girls’, and I was not disappointed!
I especially love that the author focuses on Briseis who is an interesting character often overlooked in stories.
This is another great Greek Mythology book I will be recommending.
I love this author so reading this book was amazing. i recently read silence of the girls and liked how she used the womens narrative to retell the stories similarly to how she did in this book
Classic Greek retelling with the spin you want if you're already a fan of the mythology. I enjoyed, although not as moving as Madeline Miller.