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From my blog post: This book is actually the inspiration behind this post because I tweeted that it had me in a chokehold. I had started it at like 4:25 am (I know, I know, the hours I am up) and forced myself to stop at like 7:30 am because I hadn’t gone to sleep yet (in my defense, it was Saturday morning & I had no plans for the day). Each time I picked up my amazon fire, I had such a hard time putting it down because I was getting sucked into the story, trying to figure out the roles that the Seton Girls played in the story and how the characters would handle certain situations. There were multiple points of views which also helped push the story forward (and y’all know Dual POVs are my jam). The layers this story had just gave everything that needed to be given, especially since there was an added little twist that I did NOT guess, which is not something that happens all that often! This is definitely a book I’ll be thinking and talking about for a very long time.
Seton High is obsessed with their football team, literally. They’ve had a 13 year win streak and they also credit it to the Seton girl’s by their sides. The quarterback wants to win really bad, especially with the first black we who can overshadow him. Secrets can expose some darker undersides to the school.
This was a well written story for a debut author. Talking about the intense pride elite schools can harbor. Show king tight kit groups and race. The characters are well driven and they definitely have a taste for “damn the man” the book also has the tone of sisterhood and building each other up.
All I all, I really enjoyed the story and it’s meaning. It definitely had that Friday Night Lights feel and the drama was on par for the story.
Talking about this one without spoilers is hard because the book is ABOUT the spoilers. And they aren’t exactly surprising from fairly early in the story, but you should kind of know what you’re getting into.
Seton Girls is a contemporary YA novel following (mostly) the few Black students at a predominantly white private school. A school where the Varsity football team is basically worshipped, but the players say it’s because they have the best girls in the world cheering them on.
One of our main characters is the editor of the school newspaper and when the head of the varsity team is accused of sexual assault, she ends up learning more than she ever wanted to about the dark underbelly of elite high school football.
This book took some time for me to become invested. I wasn’t sure how I felt about the writing style and when I realized this plot was going involve the sexual exploitation of teen girls, I wasn’t sure I wanted to keep reading. Ultimately I’m glad I stuck it out-the story is compelling and makes you care. I’m not sure the handling of everything was perfect and I think it could have gone farther than it did.
That said, I generally thought this was a solid book with deep visceral relationships between women. Maybe it’s me but I don’t see how you can read this and NOT see the queer subtext to so many relationships. I received a copy of this book for review via Netgalley. All opinions are my own.
Seton Girls ignited my heart. It will push you to use your voice and fight for the truth, however hard it may be.
In the current political climate, it strikes even harder and pulsates with anger at the society we live in. At times, this is an incredibly difficult read. From the very first page, I felt that pit in my stomach drop wide open as I knew where this story was heading. It is a very well-handled depiction of the issue though, igniting much needed conversations around toxic masculinity, rape culture and locker room talk. Personally, I thought it was discussed sensitively and without graphic detail, but enough to clearly establish what has occurred. Thomas dissects the boys will be boys mentality and asks why the voices of survivors are held in less esteem than the reputations of the boys and their sports team. There are far too many real world parallels that instantly spring to mind. That is probably why this book truly burrowed its way into my heart. Thomas does not hold back and that irate rawness just really hits home. She also utilises a past timeline to establish the creation of this sickening structure, building the mystery and clearly exposing the exploitation at the heart of it. The way this eventually intersects with the present timeline is well-executed and underlines how entrenched the school is with this toxic culture. Here, the school revolves around the team and therefore they are virtually untouchable, until Aly starts to look for the truth.
In addition to that incredibly important discussion, there is also an exploration of racism and classism that feeds into this toxic hierarchy of privilege. This power structure of patriarchy and rape culture directly correlates to the classist and racist infrastructures at the school. Thomas brings these factors into a nuanced conversation, particularly in the characters of Aly and J. They are already marginalised and considered outside of the social structure as they are some of the few Black students who are bussed in from more than an hour away. This adds more weight into particularly J’s story, as someone who is dependent on his sport to succeed. The structures of the school are not made to uplift someone like him. Thomas digs into this with the show of his natural success and ability, which the white quarterbacks and current star team can only replicate through underhanded and despicable actions. Also, Britt (the popular senior girl who Aly becomes drawn to) is Black too, but from an incredibly privileged background. This adds another layer to the discussion of privilege at the centre of this book, asking what it costs for success in this social world built to only support the elite few.
Above all, Aly is a fantastic protagonist. As the head of the school paper, she is in the perfect position to interrogate this atmosphere and the suffocating society she has found herself enmeshed in. I loved her genuine passion and drive to find the truth. She has a caring soul that wants to protect those she cares for and a sense of empathy that really makes you fall in love with her. Her and J have a gorgeous relationship as well, with that intimate trust and familiarity that just makes you feel all gooey inside. Their dynamic is always a breath of fresh air in the book, allowing some space to breathe and process everything that has happened. You can tell that both of them deeply care for the other and want the best for them, which is inevitably complicated by the earth-shattering revelations Aly uncovers.
Seton Girls is the type of book that makes you want to burn the world down.
Accessed this on NetGalley via the PYR Fall 2022 Educator and Librarian Preview. Bonus star for the extremely high intrigue that kept me glued to NetGalley.
No, it’s not supernatural stuff, so yes, its probably the terrible scenario you’re thinking of.
Ambitious, compelling, difficult, upsetting. Sometimes too frothy and verbose when it came to trying to describe the (frankly) indescribable flavor of friendship some teen girls have, and definitely too heavy handed with some of the characterization, but this is absolutely the type of teen drama the CW is always trying to cook up. This is the kind of rich-people-underbelly sh*t that made Gossip Girl such a powerhouse. Yes, it’s pretty clear pretty early on what is happening; yes, it is an excruciatingly slow burn that is sometimes repetitive; YES it was upsetting sometimes in a way that made me feel hollow. But I could NOT stop reading until I was finished.
Overall a good read but it’s hard to say how I might recommend this to someone. It’s hard to fully get into it without jumping to spoilers, but there is a bunch of content integral to the structure of the book that is also difficult to read - There is some straight up, squarely triggering stuff even if you can’t recognize all the heartbreaking layers to some of the characters. If you’re a teen learning about inequity and institutionalized sh*ttiness for the first time this could be devastating; I already know about those things and it still got heavy and upsetting. So yeah, hard to say… Definitely an exciting pick for my first NetGalley read, and I look forward to what everyone has to say about this one once it comes out later this month.
This is a slow burn if I've ever seen one, definitely living up to the Friday Night Lights comparison. At Seton, football is everything. But when a secret comes out that could jeopardize everything... you get to see who your friends are. Aly goes from being on the outside to being smack dab in the middle of everything as Britt and Parker battle it out. And what starts as a simple cheating scandal becomes so much more... It's gripping, told through alternating timelines that lets the reader add up everything we've missed. But the last chapter before the epilogue really drives the book home and I wish we'd gotten to see inklings of it sooner. Definitely a drama for the ages.
*Thank you to Penguin Teen and NetGalley for an ARC in exchange for my honest review*
I've started this book twice and can't get into it. The introduction of so many characters in the first few pages made it difficult to keep up with them all. The early introduction of conflict when only knowing these characters surfacely didn't draw me in either. This is a DNF for me. However, the cover is gorgeous!
Friday night lights meets dear white people. When the brother of the Seton star who started the win streak, wants more than regular season glory. He wants a state championship before his successor, Seton's first Black QB, has a chance to overshadow him. A book of lies, trickery, and secrets
The Seton Girls are the backbone of their school. Their football team couldn't be successful without them. The team even takes a point in every football team to cheer for the girls in the crowd. 13 years ago, Cooper Adams took over as the quarterback for Seton. During his time in power he did two things, showed the importance of Seton girls and turned the program into a winning legacy. For the past 13 years they have had winning season after winning season. Now Cooper's younger brother, Parker, is at the helm and determined to take it further than any team before and take States. When a rift in the senior girls tears apart Parker's girlfriend, Michelle, and her best friend, Britt, will it impact the football team. The team has always enjoyed privileges around town from their combination of wealth and team member status. They have always been able to walk around with not a carry in the world.
Waiting in the wings to take the helm of the team next year is J. J is the JV quarterback and the most talented athlete to walk the halls of Seton. As the quarterback who is a "bus" kid and also the first black quarterback he is nervous but excited to get to his senior year and earn a scholarship. One big concern he has is how can he run the helm without the wealth behind him to host the parties? His girlfriend, Aly has been his ride or die since childhood. Growing up across the street together they have never known life apart and have grand plans for the future. She is the first ever Junior editor of the popular Seton newspaper and has dreams of her own of making it big in journalism.
When Aly finds herself befriended by Britt after Britt falls out of favor with the other senior girls she is enamored with her new friend. She's seeing the Seton proper side of life, enjoying picnics at the club and a life that has been foreign to her including the fact that the Seton girls deserve to be more than the adjective they have been assigned, best. They deserve to be nouns themselves.
Britt and Aly team up to research a big story that might throw a wrench into the Seton community they must find a way to get the community to see that winning isn't everything.
Thank you Penguin Teen for the earc to read and review.
Seton is an exclusive prep school that is obsessed with football and tradition. Told in alternating timelines between What it was and What it is, you are immersed into the lives of the Seton football team and their Seton Girls in the past and the present.
While all seems perfect on the outside what happens when dark secrets start to be exposed and everyone is worrying about their perfect life and season start crumbling down?
The present timeline is in Aly’s point of view. She is the first junior to become editor of the school paper and her boyfriend and lifelong best friend, J is the JV quarterback and soon to be the first black quarterback the school has ever had. They are two of only 22 students who are bussed in and don’t belong in Seton proper. They are fully immersed in the football parties and traditions although always just on the outside.
When there is a fracture in the close knit group of seniors, Aly must choose sides. With gaslighting, sexual misconduct and classism, this book covers the darkness of the untouchables. As the story unfolds even more secrets unfold.
At its core it is powerful story about friendships and girls standing up for what is right and taking control.
SETON GIRLS by Charlene Thomas feels very believable, especially at the beginning, as readers are introduced to the popular "Seton Girls" and the football players they date. The social status and constructs feel similar to those I experienced as a teen in Texas, which also makes the situation in SETON GIRLS feel deeply rooted.
Although the characters' social situations felt real, the actual characters lacked dimension. It was hard to believe that these smart teens were anchoring themselves to teen boys so permanently. Reading about the Seton Girls' worlds as they orbited the boys became frustrating, especially when I was multiple chapters into the book and there was still no "hook," no reason presented *within* the book to keep reading. (The book jacket copy provides a hook, but there is no sign of that for a very long time in the actual chapters.)
I tried to finish this one, but could not, especially knowing that I would not use it in my creative writing classes. Still, I will look for Charlene Thomas' next book and wish the author the very best.
Thank you for the opportunity to read this ARC!
SETON GIRLS by Charlene Thomas
Thanks for letting me snag a copy of this one at ALA @duttonbooks ✨
CW: Classism, Violence, Sexual harassment, Rape, Alcohol, Bullying, Toxic relationship, Sexual violence, Sexual assault, Sexism, Misogyny, Gaslighting, and Emotional abuse.
I’m gonna start off by saying I feel like a bad queer for my fav read in June being the only non-queer book I read 🥲🥲🥲 don’t come for me this book SLAPS.
What I liked:
-The emphasis on platonic relationships vs. romantic relationships. When I was growing up all the YA books I felt like were popular were very centered around romance, so it was cool to see platonic relationships taking center stage.
-The commentary on privilege especially white privilege but also male privilege and where those privileges intersect.
-The cult-like mentality around this school/ football team. I was completely sucked in to this world and why people were so obsessed with this school.
-The writing was so good! I felt like Charlene acutely captured that feeling of being on the precipice of adulthood, that indestructible feeling that a lot of teens have. Like you know everything but nothing at the same time.
Final thoughts: would highly recommend! It’s been a while since I was sucked into a book like this one pulled me in. There’s A LOT to unpack in this novel and I think Charlene absolutely smashed it. I think the conversations this book will ignite amounts young people are very necessary. Make sure to take a peak at the content warnings for this one before diving in!
What a ride! Loved this book, this world, and most especially loved these Girls! The Seton set felt so real and so immersive - filled with true to life scenarios and glimpses into a lot of what students are dealing with right now - Seton Girls made a big impression on me and is a book that I know many will devour. Great read from start to finish.
Have you ever finished a book and desperately wanted to meet the characters???
By the end of this book, I was left feeling emotional and empowered! I was in awe of the Seton Girls and am crossing my fingers for a sequel just to have the chance to continue to follow their journey.
This YA novel takes place in a high school where the students drive luxury cars and their Ivy League futures are secured with family donations. Seton Academic High reigns as an elite educational institution and also has an undefeated football team on their way to the State Championship.
On the outside, both the town and the school are quite literally perfect… but when things look too perfect, there are bound to be very dark secrets.
Throughout the book, I knew the author was creating a buildup and the anticipation kept me invested! Once the secret was revealed, the anticipation didn’t end because I had to know how everything would or would not fall in place.
There are very heavy topics illustrated in this story, but what I appreciated the most were the grey areas… the area where the perspective of consent shifts based on the people you think know and what you think the victim should look or act like. The grey needs to be brought to light more and this book does an excellent job shedding that light and beginning a much needed conversation.
Favorite line: “Labels are harder with people you know, people you love. It’s the difference between calling them a person who did a bad thing or the type of person who does bad things. Semantics, maybe. But not to the heart.”
Seton Girls was good! I didn’t know where this was going at first, but once I really got into the story I was hooked. The secrets that were revealed, the big secret had me 😧😧.
I loved the representation of friendship and a look into privilege and what it allows for those who have it.
Although I was intrigued by the premise, the book Seton Girls unfortunately wasn’t my kind of book. I thought there would be more twists, but it was predictable.
I believe that this is an incredible book, one that is raw and bursting. It's writing is stunning, and brimming with emotion. It's an incredible book, and one I think many people will love. Though, I found that my brain just couldn't handle certain aspects of it, because it was just too heavy for me right now. This is nothing against the book, and I do think it is something incredible.