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I had extremely high hopes for this one, and though I enjoyed aspects of the book it more or less was a disappointment for me...

First off, the premise - perfect. It love the idea of modern day sirens, being in the middle of the ocean with secrets upon secrets occurring constantly. Eerie, creepy type of fear around every corner. Secondly though, this is where my enjoyment moves away. The characters were rather one-dimensional, and I could have gotten by without having too much depth, but they were very stereotypical in an annoying way. I could get on board (pun intended) with the stereotypes, I could, but it made these characters obnoxious. And thirdly I was able to see where the book was going with the heavy foreshadowing, and I do mean heavy foreshadowing. There were also things I was hoping would have gotten a bit more flesh out whereas other aspects could have been thinned.

Again, overall loved the premise. I enjoyed parts of the book but those parts unfortunately were not enough for me to not skim to the point of almost DNF'ing the book. Kind of a let down.

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A terrific atmospheric horror debut by author Amy Goldsmith. It was a little slow at first to get into but it paid off because the plot was gripping and the characters were super intriguing!

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It took a while to get into it but it was pretty decent. I can’t quite put my finger on why but I’m not really sure how to describe what I did and didn’t like.

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Those We Drown is a YA Horror/Thriller that takes place on a cruise ship.

Liv gets an all-expense paid opportunity to study on The Eos (a cruise ship) for a semester. Her best friend who she has been sort of ghosting her will be studying on The Eos as well. She hopes that they both can clear the air and can become best friends again. But strange things happen. Will ends up getting sick and quarantined, but she is unable to see him and the text messages he is sending her do not sound like him. It ends up making Liv suspicious, but she becomes very suspicious when others go missing.

Cover:
This cover is really beautiful and eye catching, which is why I decided to pick this book up.

Plot:
Those We Drown definitely has an interesting plot and I liked that this took place on a cruise ship for the selected students to study, um actually I am not really sure what they were supposed to be there to study for. But I do like that this book takes place in a different setting compared to other YA horror/thriller/suspense novels.
Those We Drown definitely falls flat in the execution and lacks depth when it comes to its plot. I just feel like not much of the setting, the development of the plot with the conflict and resolution were not really fleshed out. For most of the book it felt like not much was going on and there were parts of the story that felt pretty repetitive.

Also, from the beginning and every so often throughout the book I became very confused on what exactly was going on such as why they were on the ship to study, what were they studying, and how old the characters were.

Characters:
With the characters we see that most on the ship are rich, and Liv happens to not be rich and is there on a technicality. It is noted in the beginning multiple times that she did not have money like the others, has a scholarship, and she was not supposed to be there and was only able to secure her spot because of a girl went missing. The social status differences between Liv and the other characters felt very stereotypical and this was especially seen with The Sirens (a group of influencers).

The Sirens were made out to be these super-hot, catty, and dense type influencers. It really feels stereotypical in my opinion since not all influencers are like that and it was put in there because there needed to be a hot, popular, and mean girl clique to help advance the story. Yet, I feel like they were very shallow and did not really add much to the story and the hate towards Liv was really not validated.

Liv and Will were not fleshed out well either. I'm not sure on why they really are best friends or were best friends. Obviously, it is because of their mothers, but besides that why did they even want to stay friends once they became teenagers? Plus, they and the side characters came off pretty one dimensional with little to no character development.

Pacing
This book started off slow and remained very, very slow for the most part. It is over 400 pages, and it could be cut down about 50-100 pages since there was not much going on and areas where it became repetitive.

Due to the slow pacing, I was really bored while reading this and just could not connect with the characters and what was going on. I ended up not caring about what was actually happening and about what would happen to the characters.

Overall Thoughts:
This book may have not been for me, but this could certainly be for other people who love a slow, horror, thriller type book.

For me I think I would have enjoyed this book more if it was fleshed out more with the plot and characters to make it feel all less one dimensional or shallow feeling. I do think Amy Goldsmith as an author has the potential to write some great books in the future and I definitely am willing to pick up another book by them to see how I feel about their writing.

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I liked the general vibes if this novel: creepy happenings at sea, but I wanted more creepiness and less teens complaining. Alas, maybe that's why it's YA?

Either way wtfff was that end? Did the author give up? There's fit to be a sequel, but I don't know if I'll read it.

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I’m new to reading YA and I just feel like this one was a little too young for me. I couldn’t really get into the characters because I didn’t have anything in common with them. With that being said though, it was still a good read!

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Liv is thrilled to receive a scholarship to study aboard a luxury cruise ship for a semester – it could be the boost she needs to get into the college of her choice. She’s a little nervous, but her BFF Will is also going. Their friendship has been rocky recently, and this trip provides an opportunity to repair their relationship. After a huge fight with a drunken Will in front of everyone on the first night, run-ins with a group of glamorous influencers, and treatment as a charity case by the other wealthy, spoiled students, Liv has second thoughts about the program. And that’s before the really bizarre things start happening.

The cruise ship setting is a plus for this story, essentially making it a locked room mystery. Will is quarantined with a mysterious illness their second day on board, but things aren’t adding up. Liv is certain something’s wrong. I don’t know that I’d be quite as loyal to Will considering the way he humiliates her, but Liv runs around the ship searching for the truth and finds herself in some harrowing situations. After seeing some disturbing things, she wonders if she’s hallucinating, and the possibility of an unreliable narrator crossed my mind. But the masked stranger that attacks her is real. Of that she’s sure.

Between the mean girl Sirens, privileged students who continually point out Liv’s scholarship status, and Will’s treatment of her, none of these characters are especially likable. I initially sympathized with Liv’s situation, but then grew frustrated with her as she bounced around the ship making accusations. Many are correct, but the story stalls as her accusations become repetitive without any action. When other people disappear under mysterious circumstances or for feeble excuses the story picks up speed again. It’s not difficult to figure out what’s happening on board pretty early, but it takes Liv a while to get there since no one believes her wild allegations. The romance feels more awkward than genuine, and I’m not convinced it’s needed. A friendship could have worked just as well.

The story ends abruptly, leaving many things unresolved, and I’m not sure if there will be a sequel. While I’m a fan of the setting and premise, the characters didn’t click for me.

I received a complimentary copy of this book from the publisher through NetGalley. Opinions expressed in this review are completely my own.

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I enjoyed reading this book. I was intrigued by the premise of horror on the sea. The story was suspenseful and makes you want to keep reading to see what happens. The characters were decent. YA horror fans will enjoy this book.

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I read this extremely fast on audiobook and it was such a strange, twisty, and refreshing read. Super unique and fun and while I shouldn't want to go on a cruise now after that plot, I still do. Bring it on.

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When I read the synopsis of this book, I was immediately intrigued by the "ocean horror" trope, which tends to be a favorite of mine. Needles to say, this was a very anticipated read for me. Unfortunately, I found myself absolutely loathing this book. The premise had so much promise, but it was essentially 300 pages of the main character, Liv, saying the same annoying things over, and over... and over again. I pushed through to the end out of spite and with the tiniest inkling of hope that there would be a satisfying ending. Didn't happen. Overall, this was not a good read for me.

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A great young adult horror novel set at sea! I was disappointed in the open ending because I need closure. If there's a sequel I can forgive it. But still found that annoying.

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I thought that we would see the book unfold across the whole Seamester, that is not the case. Bonus, we don’t have to hear about school things but it would’ve been more interesting if the events had taken place through the whole trip. Instead they don’t even make it to their first port stop in New York City. The route taken wasn’t described very well (or where they originated) so I didn’t really have a solid stance on time passing until it how many days till the first port stop would be on occasion.

This book did a good job at portraying suspense and horror but I believe that it could have been so much more. The potential for it to be downright terrifying was certainly there but maybe that wasn’t what the author wanted for it. I wasn’t a fan of the ending, it could’ve been a lot better – what it is now could be a loop in for a possible sequel.

I mostly liked Liv as a character. I think everyone has had situations like hers where people either totally brush it off or flat out don’t believe you. The self-doubt, paranoia, anxiety, lack of sleep, and spiraling made me question if she was truly a reliable narrator. Hard pass on the rest of the cast – we didn’t spend a lot of time getting to know any of them but we did hear about their families & reputations.

I would like to thank Delacorte Press, Amy Goldmith & NetGalley for the opportunity to read this atmospheric horror that had ties into Greek mythology. All opinions are my own. Rounded from 3.5 stars.

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An ocean-drenched, atmospheric horror debut! Liv's best friend disappears on their first night aboard their dream semester-at-sea program—but is he really sick, like everyone says, or is something darker lurking beneath the water?

This book caught me completely off guard. What I thought it was going to be it wasn't. It was an exquisite young adult horror novel with a well developed plot. I felt so bad for Liv throughout the entire ordeal. Why is no one listening? But then you find out why. And it's crazy!!!! Definitely worth a read for horror and YA fans.

Thank you to @netgalley and @randomhousekids for letting me review this book and give my honest opinion.

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Somewhere between 3.5 and 4 stars. This deep sea, confined space YA horror was easy for me to get invested in. I definitely wanted to know what was going to happen to the characters. I wouldn’t say the characters were loveable but that almost worked better for this story given why they were on the ship.

There are things I loved about this debut:
* The atmospheric ship with all the decadence and shadowy corners
* The tension and stress our main character, Liv experienced
* The gaslighting that has you questioning what’s happening alongside Liv
* The Greek mythology references

There are also things that didn’t hit it 100% for me:
* A lot of characters with similarities and I would get them mixed up
* THE ENDING

I can forgive the characters being a little flat and repetitive because technically they do have a lot of similarities. And what we didn’t get from the characters was made up for by the tension and gaslighting.

BUT, that ending. This would have been a solid 4 star read for me if the ending would have had closure. I don’t mind an open ended ending, but this one felt a little like we didn’t know how to wrap it up. I so wanted to know what happened with Liv and the rest of the ship and I was really curious how the author was going to tie everything up. I think because I was looking forward to that, the ending really felt like a cop out.

Thank you NetGalley and the publisher for the eARC in exchange for my honest review!

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"I mean, obviously it was ridiculously, obscenely impressive, with its enormous sci-fi atrium full of floating exotic species, not to mention the expansive rainforest that had been sacrificed for all the wood. But I didn't want to appear too small-town. I shook my hair back and shrugged, as if I was used to all this grandeur and found it tedious."

Those We Drown by Amy Goldsmith was extremely good, a whirlwind of emotions that had me finish the book in one sitting. The book centers around Liv, who ends up winning an all-expenses paid scholarship for a semester aboard the Eos, a luxury cruise ship that would allow her a peek into life of the rich and famous. Better yet, she gets to make this journey with her best friend, Will.

I got sucked into the dynamics of rich versus poor, which is one of the underlying themes of this book. The transitions between chapters was flawless, with just enough at the end of one chapter to make me NEED to keep reading.

BUT...despite the solid writing, plot lines, and character development there is one major flaw.

THE ENDING!

Oh my gosh, the ending. Just...what? I have not seen any announcement of a sequel, but there better be. I closed the book feeling disappointed and frustrated that all the hard work on setting up the book, the mystery for there to just be...nothing.

Overall, I give this book a 3.5(bumped up to 4)/5. A big thanks to NetGalley and the publisher for allowing me access to the book in exchange for an honest review.

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Liv and her best friend Will are travelling a whole semester on the cruise ship named Eos where Liv received an all expense paid scholarship along with seven other students from other universities. Liv is normally a quiet girl with many insecurities which increase ten-fold when she meets the others in her travel group. The girls are stunningly gorgeous and the guys are unbelievably hot never mind that everyone happens to come from ultra rich backgrounds which make Liv feel self conscious of her own humble family background. The group is allowed to drink alcohol although they are all under twenty-one so of course everyone drinks too much especially Will who happens to get into a nasty argument with Liv where he becomes very cruel and spiteful to her the rest of the evening so Liv leaves the party and goes to bed.

Liv has many disturbing dreams during the night and the next morning she finds out that after she left the night before, apparently Will became violently ill and was placed in quarantine with no further explanation. Liv becomes friendly with a couple of the others but can't seem to enjoy herself without Will on her mind and she also notices that her group and a few others seem to be the only young people on the ship. All the other guests appear old not older but elderly (Can that be right?). Liv feels a wrongness about the cruise ship's guests and almost every staff member on board where she daydreams certain images of strange creatures taking the forms of humans while her nightmares about Will and a few others become so twisted that her sanity is being compromised because she sees things that no-one else can see and her visions or whatever they are absolutely incredulous so that no one believes her stories. After several struggling days without any factual updates about Will and dealing with her living nightmares, Liv just wants to get off the ship and go home. No matter what she's been told, Liv knows something insidious has.been creeping within the passengers and there have been many unseen threats toward Liv which she finally realizes that her entire group is in danger and all their lives may be in jeopardy unless some people are involved in being part of a most incredibly, heinous and evil plan that is unimaginable by any normal human being. Where and what has happened to Will? Can Liv find anyone to believe her and help her to get off the ship? Is this luxurious cruise ship haunted or is it one way cruise to hell through the water leaving no survivors during this doomed voyage?

This was a fun and entertaining young adult horror story although I think it will appeal to a mature audience overall. The writing and storytelling were wonderful. Liv was a fun character and could be nerve wracking at times but then I'd have to remember she was a teenager without any life experience behind her so it would be.normal to continually create chaos and make impulsive and poor decisions most of the.time. The visual aspects of the creatures were scary and horrifying and just perfect for being in the middle of the ocean. All the characters were completely detailed and so expressive that I was truly surprised and impressed with this author's "Amy Goldsmith" writing creativity. This was a unique shocker of a well-done horror novel and I hope to read more of this writer's books in the future. The humor imbued into the story was spot-on to break up some of the most frightening situations and it was definitely a solid horror book with many science fiction elements so it will not be for everyone but I highly recommend it to all horror readers if you're interested in some teenagers as the main characters and their experiences throughout the story.

I want to thank the publisher "Random House Children's" Delacorte Press and Netgalley for the opportunity to read this scary book and any thoughts or opinions expressed are unbiased and mine alone!

I have give a rating of 4 SPOOKY AND UNSETTLING 🌟🌟🌟🌟 STARS!!

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I have mixed feelings about this one. I think the author did a good job at hooking me from the very start. I was immediately interested in the romantic tension between Will and Liv. As they were fighting the first night on the ship, I thought maybe we’d get to the bottom of their deal, but alas, just more rising tension and then boom—Will goes missing. So, naturally, I had to finish the book to find out what happens to Will and honestly, it’s probably the only reason why I finished the book at all because Liv was not cutting it for me. I never felt like I had a good grasp on who she really was as a character and found her timid and brave at moments that felt so out of place and unrealistic. The author had Liv withhold information from other characters many times throughout the book for really no good reason. Her and Con went on missions that seemed to always get sidetracked way too conveniently, dragging out the pacing of this mystery that could’ve been solved ages ago. That part of the book was very frustrating. Liv was frustrating. Her feelings for Con were about the only thing that puzzled me. It was never really clear why she liked him. Everything else, aside from finding out what happens to Will, became pretty predictable from the very beginning. And that ending? I was not satisfied. All that said, I did like the atmospheric tone and the setting—luxurious with a hint of strange gothic vibes. I also like the author’s style of writing. Just thought the story itself could’ve unraveled differently with more unexpected twists and turns, and Liv could’ve been a better-developed MC.

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this was gorgeously atmospheric! i really enjoyed the story and think that teen readers will also love the lush prose and characters :)

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4 Stars!

When I saw a book described as an “ocean-drenched, atmospheric horror,” I knew this was a book I needed to look at. The cover that brought visions of Lovecraftian horror to mind cemented that though and I happing picked up Those We Drown by Amy Goldsmith to see if the book could live up to the promise of that description and cover.



The summer promised to be the greatest summer of Liv’s young life. She won a scholarship for an all-inclusive semester aboard a luxury cruise ship that would allow her to travel the world while learning and padding her college applications. Even better, her friend (and ex-best friend, and maybe erstwhile boyfriend) Will was on the cruise with her. Not even the disdain she felt from some of her classmates when they found out she was the only scholarship (and, therefore, not rich) student or the apparent shallowness many of them displayed could get her down. Even the somewhat creepy yet appealing sirens, a trio of picture-perfect influencers, and their obvious dislike of her could get her spirits down. Then Will got sick the first night and everything changed. The dream of a summer began to turn into a waking nightmare.



Liv finds herself forced to unravel what appears to be a conspiracy against her and the other students in her program. The only problem is that no one believes her and, in fact, treat her as if she is insane. Even worse is the fact there is no one she can trust and those she does turn on her. When more people start missing, it is apparent there is something very wrong on this cruise and her very life hangs in the balance. Liv must find a way to stop the strange cult that seems to control the ship and make it back to dry land before she becomes the next sacrifice to the dark gods of the deep.



It should be pointed out immediately that this is a Young Adult novel and reads as such. That is not something that concerns me, but it could be a stopping point for some readers. The line can be blurry in some books, but this is a story that is clearly aimed at teenage readers. What the book is, though, is an interesting take on the Lovecraft mythos through the eyes of a teenager. I will admit that some of the characters really did not work for me, like the Sirens who came off more annoying than menacing, and the allure of social media influencers does not have the same impact on me as it may on a younger reader, but I still enjoyed the novel as a whole. Amy Goldsmith shows that she is a writer of considerable talent in this novel, and Those We Drown is an entertaining read.



The horror in Those We Drown is more atmospheric than anything, but it works well for the story, especially given the Lovecraftian themes of the novel. It moves along at a brisk pace and there is very little downtime in the novel. One of the benefits of the novel being written for young adults is that it does not require as much work from the reader to enjoy as do many Lovecraftian tales. In fact, this novel can easily be read in one or two sittings. I feel the novel works better for a younger reader, but there is no reason why an adult cannot enjoy it as well. If you are looking for an entertaining read that is more creepy than scary and that can while away some idle time without too much of an investment, Those We Drown is sure to check off all those boxes for you.



I would like to thank Random House/Delacorte Press and NetGalley for this review copy. Those We Drown is scheduled to be released on July 27, 2023.

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i enjoyed this! there were parts where i was a little bored but that’s okay, overall i still had a good time!!

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