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Although fictional this book follows loosely history and research. It’s not an easy read and centers trauma, addiction and other hardships in indigenous communities which makes it hard to read. Definitely not a book you sit down and read in one sitting.
I feel like more editing would have benefited this book.
Such an emotional collection, anyone who loved There, There will feel the same about this book. The author does a great job of displaying raw emotion and the real human experience with the nuance of trauma.
I really enjoyed Orange's debut, There, There and was excited to see that he was releasing a prequel/sequel. I'm happy to say that Wandering Stars lived up to my expectations, even if it left me wanting a little bit more.
Wandering Stars explores the displacement of indigenous populations in the USA, the erasure of their cultures and languages, and addiction. All of these themes appear in There, There, but are explored much more in-depth in this novel. The novel starts in the 19th centuries, with some of the ancestors of the characters we met in There. There. Then time jumps forward to be a sequel to the first novel. Personally, I found the historical parts of the novel stronger overall. However, it was also nice to revisit the brothers Lony and Orvil as well as Opal and understand more of the aftermath of the shooting at the Pow Wow.
Many critiques of this book discuss how it does not feel like the first and second parts come together. I can see where those criticisms are coming from on a basic level. The plot points, for example, do not all follow through (though there are references to things we saw and heard about in the historical portion of the books). What does follow through strongly are the realities of generational trauma, as well as the continuing violence to indigenous populations. I felt that Orange did an excellent job connecting past and present along those themes. It made what was initially a confusing premise of both prequel and sequel make complete sense in execution.
I am curious to see where Orange goes with his next work!
I loved Tommy oranges last novel so was really excited for this one. I found this harder to get into even though it’s quite short. Orange is a beautiful writer and I look forward to what he does next but this won’t end up being a fave.
3.5 stars - This book was hard to rate for me. It would have been a four-star read because I think Orange's writing is so captivating. He has a really unique way of structuring his sentences that feels fresh to me. However, I had to bump this down half a star because it just felt really hard to follow. It's both a prequel and a sequel to 'There There,' but I just could not keep track of all of the characters (especially in the first half of the book). It was a little easier to track everyone in the second half, which is focused on modern-day characters. I think my brain is just not organized enough for this kind of storytelling. I truly appreciate Orange's characters and his focus on addiction and mental health (and of course Native American culture), but not being able to follow the whole journey of the book makes me a little hesitant to pick up his books in the future.
If you liked There There, you will love this one. Same gorgeous writing, biting commentary, but more character connection. I loved spending more time with Opal's grandsons after they survived the powwow shooting. The first half of the book tells more about the family, starting with Jude Star in the 1800's, What a great book-no surprise it's long listed for the Aspen Words Literary Prize!
I wasn't as blown away by this one as I was There There, but that may have been due in part to the format. I really struggle to read on a device vs. a physical book, but I was so excited to get my hands on this one! There There still tops my list of favorites even after all this time, and I will absolutely read anything Tommy Orange produces. This was no exception. The writing is exquisite.
Sadly I missed the window to read this here on NetGalley -- will read and review on GR.
Thank you for the arc
Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange is the follow-up to There, There. I did enjoy There, There. But I'm not so sure about this second book. These books do a great job of explaining the horrors of American history towards Native Americans. Reading historical fiction is an amazing way to learn about history while reading a well-written story. Thanks to NetGalley for the free digital review copy. All opinions are my own.
Tommy Orange is an excellent storyteller. It feels like he is weaving the past and present together to create a beautiful tapestry. I don’t know how else to describe it. I wasn’t sure what to expect beyond a continuation of the story after the events in There, There. I feel like he shattered my expectations with a deep and complicated history of the main characters’ ancestors. It’s been some time since I read There, There so I had to think a bit harder about who each of the characters were, but it came full circle. I appreciate the history that Tommy shares throughout this book and I learned a lot from it. I can tell that I’m going to think about this book for a while. I look forward to reading anything that Tommy Orange writes in the future.
This was a great follow up to There There. It was heartbreaking in so many ways. But encouraging in its own ways. Interesting to read books about Native Americans living in the city
For readers who enjoyed There, There by Tommy Orange, Wandering Stars revisits the family featured in that novel allowing us to witness the history of the ancestors. While there were many aspects of Wandering Stars that kept me reading and emotionally involved with the characters, I have come to the conclusion after reading both novels that Tommy Orange's writing style is not for me.
The topic of addiction plays an enormous role in Wandering Stars, as several characters battle various addictions and with varying consequences. The story moves back into the early history of the family, and although it is clear that the history is being told to give perspective on the present day, the connections are not always clear. There was a family tree in the front pages, which was very helpful, as there are numerous characters that I struggled to keep straight.
Thank you to Netgalley and Knopf for the digital copy of Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange. The opinions in this review are my own.
Tommy Orange takes us even closer into the hearts of the characters we came to love in There There. And while the story is still choked with grief, it isn't without hope. This story takes us into the past, to the roots of the story we read in There There, and then carries us to the aftermath of the tragic shooting. Broadening that horizon, so we get the wide-angle view of how this generational trauma defines our path. But every node on that path is a choice that was made--so there's empowerment in knowing that our choices can change the future. Another classic from a gifted author whom I hope will have a long and fruitful literary career.
I thought Wandering Stars was a remarkable and worthy follow up to There There. The novel takes us from the heartbreaking history of the Bear Shield and Red Feather families, reaching back to the Sand Creek Massacre and the Carlisle Indian Industrial School and its very flawed founder, Richard Henry Pratt, whose motto was "kill the Indian, save the man."
Wandering Stars shows how the reverberations of these horrors continue to the present day, creating the continued struggles of displacement, forced assimilation, addiction and family trauma into modern times. The blended Bear Shield and Red Feather families now live in modern day Oakland, struggling to maintain their family bonds and their identities. The novel brings us forward to where There There left off, following the characters, Orvil, Lony and Loother, deeper as they move from teenagers to adulthood. It's not without more painful journeys but the novel also maintains a hopefulness as each finds their path.
Thank you to Net Galley for the advanced readers copy.
Thank you to Netgalley and the Publishing Company for providing me this Digital Advanced Readers Copy of the book!
Wandering Stars according to author Tommy Orange is a prequel, sequel, and stand alone book following his successful debut There, There. I read Wandering Stars first, then read There, There and then went back and reread Wandering Stars.
There, There is set in Oakland, Calif and follows a consecutive time sequence. Wandering Stars starts a couple of centuries earlier and highlights the US's attempts to annihilate Indian culture by force sending children to boarding schools where they dress as white children and only learn white culture. Orange then brings us back to Oakland and we follow many people, at least five different narrators, and get a strong sense of living in the present knowing very little about one's own background and culture but also knowing you are different from the Caucasian culture around you.
I found it easy to keep track of all the narrators. I come from Oakland and it was an eye opener realising that much of what is described in both books was going on around me and I had no idea. Orange's writing is lovely. Especially his dialogue amongst teens trying to find their way was very authentic. There is a lot of drugs which makes sense for people who have been misplaced, given no help finding their way back to a homeland and still, to this day, considered "other" by many people in the US. But that isn't Orange's focus. It's to tell the stories of these descendants from the tribes forced to give up their way of life and adapt to a white culture.
Wandering Stars is deeply moving. Reading it twice was a pleasure.
Tommy Orange has moved into my favorite authors folder - writing from his heartbeat, his genetic voices harmonizing into this anthem of a book.
He writes from the trauma of people who realized there really was no one to save them, and the few who survived to bear witness bled pain down the generations, trickled through the years, shattering and gathering through families, tears washing these pages for which you and I have been taught the great gift of reading this story in a language we understand from a writer who spills an erased history back into our world. . .And demands with an earned outrage why we don't, why we didn't, can we not do more. . .??!!?
Stunning, stellar and confounding. Lightning cracks my heart.
*A sincere thank you to Tommy Orange, Knopf, Pantheon, Vintage, and Anchor, and NetGalley for an ARC to read and review independently.*
I loved There There, but found Wandering Stars much harder to get into. Tommy Orange is an exceptional talent, but this book wasn't as engaging as his debut.
Orange picks up where he left when writing There, There. He explores the difficulties in embracing an identity when society is so desperately trying to erase you. The story tries to hit some of the same notes, but I felt further removed from the characters of this novel. I struggled with the character development of Ovril’s ancestors. It seemed a bit messy to me. Nevertheless, I love Orange’s way with words and his narrative ideas.
A powerful continuation of the people we met in There, There but also a prequel that goes back centuries. We meet narrators in battle, imprisoned in Florida, their jailer there who goes on to teach at the Carlisle Indian School, and all the connections take us forward to Oakland, CA. We pick up Orvil and his family after the events of There, There. Deep pain has resulted from that shooting and continues in their lives in various forms. But Orange's writing enlightens and gives hope as this family survives together so many challenges.