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I really enjoyed this novel. It's a fascinating premise and sometimes tricky to wrap your head around. I quite enjoyed the characters and how they changed over time, and made choices based on what was "seen". And we're these views really wrong? Maybe it was what was supposed to happen.
Good writing, will watch for the authors future novels
DNF at 30%
Unfortunately, this one just wasn't for me. I found it really slow and my mind kept wandering when listening to the audio version. I am glad I listened though as other reviews talked about the lack of quotation marks when people were speaking made it hard to follow.
This book has a really cool concept with its time-bending town and Odile's role in it. I enjoyed the unique idea of having a town split by different time periods and the tough choices Odile faces. The relationship between Odile and Edme is sweet and adds a nice emotional touch. However, the story sometimes felt a bit slow and the ending didn’t quite wrap things up as neatly as I’d hoped. It’s definitely an interesting read with some great moments, but it could use a bit more polish in the pacing and resolution.
The Other Valley was outside of what I normally read, but still enjoyable. The story is split in two parts, following young Odile as she experiences the vetting program to get into the Counseil and falling in love. After witnessing two individuals on a mourning tour that will forever change her path in life, the other portion of the book follows adult Odile as she experiences her life following the choices she made in her younger life.
The story follows an interesting plot of 3 different valleys, each identical except that one takes place 20 years prior and the other 20 years in the past. The story involves a little mystery, suspense and a little romance.
Thank you NetGalley and Simon & Schuster for the ARC in exchange for my honest review
it took me a bit to “get it.” I don’t give out 5-star reviews easily, but I do think this novel is quietly brilliant and I can’t wait to read it again! the author trusts the reader just enough so they can follow. has an aura of magic realism, but with time travel.
Well, I tried to read this book - I think this is just not for me. I sadly Dnf-ed at 32%
The premise is really interesting but I find the characters weren't fleshed out as much as I would have liked and I had a hard time keeping track, or caring about them. The story really did feel original and inventive, yet as a character driven reader I couldn't look past this aspect.
That being said, I could see a lot of people I know enjoying this. I just don't think it was for me.
Thank you to Netgalley, Simon and Schuster Canada, and Atria books for the ARC.
Thank you Atria Books and Netgalley for a copy of The Other Valley!
"To the east, the town is twenty years ahead in time. To the west, it's twenty years behind." If you had permission to travel outside the valley, which direction would you go?
What a wonderful story about the weight of our decisions, the different paths we take, the regret we live with. The Other Valley is gorgeous and melancholic and makes you reflect on your own decisions - how different life would be if I chose A instead of B?
I highly recommend for those looking for unique time-travel stories and for fans of David Mitchell, Emily St. John Mandel, and movies "About Time" and "The Adjustment Bureau".
Fascinating story of three valleys where a person age is 20 years apart….and there’s a chance of viewing their past under approved circumstances. Very primitive lives and laws. Interesting takes on how to preserve the timelines, on how minor changes can cause a ripple effect.
This book has an interesting concept of multiple valleys, of the same town 20 years apart., and what happens if you enter or leave that valley.
I had a hard time with the first half of the book, some of the friends weren't well enough defined to me so it was hard to keep track of them and who they were and their personalities. The second half I really liked. Odille, the main character seemed much more defined and I think the latter half of the book was much better written. I really liked her journey and everything that happened.
I'd give it 3 stars, thanks to Simon & Schuster Canada, Atria Books and Netgalley for the ARC.
“Ambition might be like a living organism, reliant on nurture to grow. With some encouragement, mine had protruded from the dirt, a tiny shoot crawling toward the light.”
The Other Valley by Scott Alexander Howard is an innovative, fascinating speculative fiction novel whose story is its strength.
Odile is a bit of an outsider in her valley community. She and her community live a unique existence defined by rules and borders (all meant to protect them): on the west side of Odile’s valley, events are 20 years behind, and to the east, they are 20 years ahead. Visits to the other valleys are only permitted through careful consideration by the Conseil. Whether it is a family who has lost a loved one, someone struggling with a terminal illness, the Conseil has to decide whether the person applying has a good case to see their loved ones again (only being able to view them from afar and not interact in any way). Odile applies to be vetted for the Conseil at her mother’s insistence. One day her fate changes forever when sees a family she recognizes from the eastern valley, letting her know that someone in her circle will likely meet an end. The story follows Odile as she navigates this knowledge and how it impacts her as she navigates the remainder of her life.
This book is beautifully written. The author takes their time in enveloping you in this new but familiar world, which at times can come with a detriment to the pacing of the book. Because so much time is spent on descriptions, there was often an urgency missing which disconnected me a bit from the characters and their motivations. Given what is at stake throughout the novel, the pacing felt a bit uneven.
What I did appreciate about The Other Valley was its story and the events that unfolded; the story felt original and exciting to me. And the tone of the book, told through Odile’s eyes, is a bit melancholic which I found to be impactful and prevented the book from being overly emotional (while still having emotional impact).
If you’re a fan of speculative fiction with some weight, and pacing isn’t an issue for you, I would still recommend this as the story will stick with you long after.
This was a strange one. Set in a valley where there are valleys on either side with the same people but 20 years in the future or the past. Really unique, interesting idea but I found the execution was not so good. Also I found it a depressing book and didn't really like the characters. Though it did end on a positive note.
3.75 Rounded up?
Listen I didn't know what I was getting myself into with this one.
I thought it was a dystopian because blurbs compared it to "Never Let Me Go" and "The Handmaid's Tale" but then I realized it is speculative fiction, which I suppose is fiction that is unreal, imaginative and from a time like ours but in a different place? Got it? Ha.
So in 'The Other Valley" we have a small town. On one side is the same town in the same valley but they are separated by 20 years. On the other side is the same town but 20 years ahead. One town 20 years in the past, the other 20 years in the future. I think this is a super imaginative concept and I enjoyed that. Maybe not super easy to get your head around but if you are like me, maybe you just don't think about it too hard, because then your head might explode.
Basically we look at a 16 year old girl who shows great promise in her career choice, a high up government official who makes decisions about who can cross what valley and for what reason. Her friend, her first sense at a chance of romance, dies, and she throws away her entire chance at the good position.
We see a tale as old as time play out, disappointed mother, bad career choice, disrespect from her male coworkers. But this book has more tricks up its sleeve.
Suspend your disbelief and see what happens when people start moving between valleys, nothing was ever as it seemed to me!
An interesting and imaginative, dark read.
This book makes you think.
The premise is the valley they live in is the current time, but on each side you either go ahead or go back in time. There are strict rules about being able to enter the different time zones. Little 16-year-old Odile is working to become one of those that helps create a decide those rules, but what she sees be stopped us or keep her going, I guess you have to be to find out.
Written by a Canadian, I was very intrigued. The science fiction in time travel this book is also something that I really enjoyed. It gets you thinking and it's something that I've never read about before. The concept is so interesting that I really delve into itand thought about all the different ways that this story could go.
I couldn't imagine living in a world where you could travel to the future of the past and the ways to get there. Messing around with time and seeing how far some people will go to do this was a contact that I want to read more about. The biggest downside I found while reading this
book was that it was long and drawn-out and could have been done a bit earlier. For this reason I give this one a 3/5.
I do think that you should be reading this for you to test for yourself!
This was fantastic and worth all the hype. I love time travel books, they lead to such terrific discussions and are the best books for book clubs. All the chatter around the moral dilemmas that come out of these tales are are one of the reasons why I read.
I loved this plot so much I told my grade 2/3 class about it only a few chapters in. Immediately I could see their wheels spinning and asked them which valley they would visit. Without hesitation hands went up and we heard about how they would visit long-gone grandparents among others. It was all I could do from crying. I plan to turn this into a future writing activity. Can't wait. The box of tissues will be at arm's reach when I read their writing.
I loved this so much I also picked up a physical copy for my permanent bookshelf at home. And I savoured it very slowly.
Thank you Simon & Schuster Canada, the author and NetGalley for an early peek.
Sixteen-year old quiet Odile Ozanne lives with her single, not terribly happy mother, who works as an archivist for the Conseil. Odile is quiet, is quiet, intelligent, has no friends, and mostly left alone at school by classmates.
Their town is situated in a valley; twenty miles to the east and to the west is a duplicate of their town. This is repeated for each of the towns on either side as well. The critical difference between each town is that there is a twenty year difference between each. So, Odile and her town is the focus of this story, and East is twenty years in her future, and West is twenty years in her past. Travelling between the towns is complicated, difficult and rare, and mediated by the Conseil carefully determining the merits of each request to travel forwards or backwards in time, and violence meted out when people attempt to flout the Conseil's rules and determinations.
Everyone in town is used to the structure and restrictions of their lives in each town, each of which is bordered by a fence and patrolled by the armed guards. No one talks about the time differences between each town, or of travelling to East or West.
Time travel is carefully controlled in this world, with a small group, the Conseil, deciding if a person is allowed to travel with to East or West, which reinforces the idea that approval to travel is a big deal, and a weighty matter. At the same time, there is a curious silence, or unwillingness to engage, except in the most elliptical way, with the unusual relationship between each town and its duplicates in the neighbouring valleys.
One day when gazing out to East, Odile sees three people in the distance, all wearing hoods. She recognizes two as the parents of a classmate, Edme Piras, and realizes this means he is dead. She begins paying him more attention at school, and likes him. He’s kind, sees her humour and intelligence despite her shyness, and she begins developing feelings for him.
Odile’s mother is eager for Odile to apply for an apprenticeship with the Conseil, which involves a several-week long and difficult vetting process, which Odile does reluctantly.
To her surprise, she is accepted, and must, each week, analyze and determine whether the test cases they’re given should be approved for a visitation or travel to or from their town and West or East. Odile shows a tendency to make the hard decisions, and her instructor sees great promise in the girl, allowing Odile to see that her future at the Conseil is likely assured. The more she learns, the more she realizes the importance of keeping Edme's eventual fate from him, to preserve a timeline and her own future.
When Edme disappears, Odile comes apart and abandons the vetting process, changing her life's trajectory and her relationship with her mother, irrevocably.
Odile’s mother places all her hopes in Odile’s advancing their status by joining the Conseil. Author Scott Alexander Howard economically shows the strain and conditional relationship between mother and daughter, even before Odile begins the vetting process. The differences between them are only exacerbated by Odile’s choice to walk away from the opportunity to secure an exalted position in the town.
We pick up Odile's story twenty years later, where she is now a member of the gendarmerie as a border guard on the east side of town. She is seemingly content with her choice, but I sensed melancholy and a hopelessness in her. She patrols, and escorts the occasional person to East.
One snowy day, there’s an incursion very near her position, and Odile gets a hell of a shock when she sees a familiar face from high school. This moment is critical for Odile, and her twenty years of decent service are imperilled, as after this shock, she reconnects with Alain, Edme's closest friend, whose life has gone totally off the rails. We see two people who have been deeply damaged by the loss they each suffered in their teens, and how many of their decisions subsequently have been impaired or questionable since then.
Odile the adolescent is comfortable with the Conseil's decisions, and the outcomes of breaking their rules. But her adolescent efforts at understanding who she is, and who she cares about, draw her into an insupportable internal conflict with her duty to the Conseil. Years later, when she begins to really see the reality of the Conseil's decisions and their enforcement, it's a hard awakening. Odile must confront the choices she made out of pain and grief when sixteen, and decide what to do when she realizes where her current choices have led her, and whether she should attempt to rewrite her life.
This is a quiet, thoughtful story about the ethics of making certain choices and living with regret. It uses time travel to ask a series of questions: Should one visit one's future or one's past? Do the rules around these travels make sense? Is it acceptable to throw away one's current life if it were possible to fix or change a decision? What are the implications of making a trip, and how will this affect not just oneself, but others in one's life?
So, weighty, philosophical stuff, but handled with sensitivity by the author, and makes for a surprisingly tense and compelling novel.
Thank you to Netgalley and to Simon & Schuster Canada for this ARC in exchange for my review.
3.5/5 stars
Thanks to NetGalley and Atria Books for the eARC.
"The Other Valley" follows sixteen-year-old Odile, who lives in a unique town bordered by its past and future, each twenty years apart. Her life intertwines with a friend facing imminent death, challenging her to confront the ethical dilemmas of time travel, fate, and the pursuit of altering life's course amidst love and loss.
Howard's debute novel is experimental and literary in nature, with vibes that are very akin to those of Emily St. John Mandel. It is not always the easiest for me to follow, but overall, I enjoyed the book.
My feelings are mixed largely due to my own difficulty following the story. I like Howards writing. The story is competent. The time travel mechanic is intriguing, and while it is not my favorite use of the mechanic, I feel it did a good job of defining the rules by which it worked. That is an important component of any good time travel narrative in my opinion, and I think that is why I am left generally positive, if a bit mid on the story.
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Odile is at the age where she must decide her future. She is in a competitive program for a sought after council position in her city. She is on track to make her mother proud and become a respected member of the town. One day she sees something that changes the course of her future.
This book provides a unique system of time travel. To the East of Odile's town lies an exact copy, but 20 years in the future. The same town to the West lies 20 years in the past. There are an infinite number of towns surrounded by a lake and mountains.
I truly enjoyed the world building and the unique time travel conundrums. The character building is believable and likable. I recommend this book.
I really wanted to love this novel. It's a compelling story unlike any I have read before. Odile lives in a valley with a fenced border. Over the fence in one direction is the exact same valley with the exact same people as they were 20 years prior, and in the other direction they are living exactly 20 years in the future.
Individuals can petition the Conseil to secretly visit the past or the future, to see a loved one alive again after they've died in their own timeline, or to see a grandchild who will be born after their death, etc. But there absolutely must not be any interference or it will change the timeline for everyone, like the butterfly effect.
Odile is confronted with the conundrum of fate vs freewill. If what she's doing has technically already happened can she change her own outcome? Or is everything predestined?
This was a slow burn novel that had me gobbling it up by the end. However, I extremely dislike when there are no indicators for dialogue. It often changed back and forth numerous times between thought and speech within a single paragraph. It took 2/3 of the book to get used it as the patterned of speech changed depending on the individual.
If you can tolerate the lack of speech indicators, then I highly recommend it.
In The Other Valley by Scott Alexander Howard, Odile lives in a valley with two identical valleys on either side: the one to the west is 20 years in the future, and to the east is 20 years in the past.
Travel between the valleys is strictly controlled to avoid interference. Odile is working to become a member of the Conseil, the group that determines who can visit.
She unexpectedly learns that her best friend will die, which leads her to question what she believes about interference.
This was a quiet, melancholy speculative fiction novel that asks hard questions. It left me feeling pleasantly unsettled, and I’ll be thinking about it for a while.
Thank you to Netgalley and Atria Books for my review copy of this book.
I enjoyed this take on the time-travelling trope. The middle portion felt a little too long, but I see now it was necessary. I hear this book is being picked up for film/tv and I am looking forward to that adaptation.